Do you support Transgender people? (No hate, just talk)

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Scris de boywind2, 04.06.2018 at 01:27

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 03.06.2018 at 21:38

No. You're not understanding my point. If you can be a woman yet still have male body, if you can be anything you say then so can I...Even take in this non binary movement, it supports my point even more.

The pedophile argument is more reasonable than the plant one.
Okay. We have a 30 man who is secretly a pedophile, he then transitions into a 7 year old girl, 3 months down the line he convinces another 7 year old girl that he is one too. Then he sexually assaults her. Does he go to prison for pedophilia or the judge lets it go because he legally identifies as a child? Which one is it?

That is no way far fetched, go onto a younglove board on 8chan and plenty if them would do it. People will do anything to get what they want even if that mean legally changing into a child.

The plant argument Is obviously a bit wild but it still stands as a logical question. I can sat I'm am a male plant yet have all the features of a male human. That is what your argument is but just to a man to woman....

People have gone to great lengths to get surgery to look like a cat, dog, snake and maybe even others. Imagine if they can legally be identified as what they act and look like. Just all with the same argument you and many others gave me at the start of this.

yes, he still goes to prison because he is biologically a 30 year old man. i don't see what's so hard to understand? identifying as other genders doesn't give you the right to do something illegal. just because you're pretending to be 8 years old doesn't mean you are 8. this question isn't even related to transgenderism. trying to look like a different species isn't anything related to transgenderism.

also, please show me an example of these types of scenarios because they are completely ridiculous and never happen. 8chan is dead and the board you've mentioned has been terminated a long time ago.

transgenderism is identifying with the other gender, that's it! no age, specie or other weird stuff involved. why you trying so hard to push a strange idea that this weird fetishes are somehow related to transgenderism is beyond me.

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 03.06.2018 at 21:46

Also the lgbt movement is collapsing on itself, some people want the flag to have black and Brown on it to make black and brown people feel more accepted.

Maybe to you lgbt is just what it says on the tin. But to others? It screams acceptance for all at any cost. A quick glance at YouTube and any other major social media platform you can see this.

you were asking the question at what point is it enough to add more sexuality to the movement and to that i responded it that as long as it is related to gender, it's fine. now you're trying to grasp at straws explaining to me why the lgbt movement is becoming ridiculous.

frankly, i don't care about the lgbt movement and anything that they're doing. this thread was talking about supporting transgenders and i wanted to show my love to my community. i don't have answers to the movement's actions, motives or agenda and asking me these questions is pointless. don't derail the topic about the lgbt movement because that is a completely different topic from
support for transgenderism.

"just because you're pretending to be 8" I and many others can say that you any trans person about male and genders.

Again mate. You keep taking this whole thing to heart and neglecting your own argument....Your own argument....

Many people have identified as cats, snakes and dogs and for those you think they are lunatics? Answer please.
They can identify as transgender if they please because they said so and others will support them with "live let live" just like waffle here.

I understand that you want transgenderism to only be about genders. But the fact clearly is it has drastically changed. Look at the video Acquiesce gave us and the world book of record's....

I brought up the lgbt movement to Acquiesce because I was talking to him then you replied to me defending it....

I am trying to "push" this idea(fact) that transgenderism is more than gender because we can clearly see it is more than that. Especially with this non binary movement supports this even greater.

The people that are cats, dogs, snakes, changing age and so on are using your argument you stated a while ago. Why should the not live life the way they want just because you call them a lunatic?

EDIT; 8chan is not dead and younglove boards are more active than they've ever been.

Scris de Waffel, 04.06.2018 at 04:51

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 03.06.2018 at 19:39

I love debates, not screaming matches.

If you love debates, do it correctly.

Right now you are using so many ad hominems, its not even a debating anymore.

As for your question where it all ends, how do you even expect an answer to it? It doesn't end, the world is evolving, the humankind is evolving, animals are evolving (also going extinct, unfortunately, but thats another discussion) everything is evolving, how do you sit here and ask about something thats evolving, when it all ends?

Sure I think this whole genderneutral thing is also a bit overreacting, but insulting people and telling them how to live is just nasty. No matter how they look like or idenfity as. Like I said in my first post, sure you may or may not like transgenders or whatever they stand for, but why would you want to interfere with their lives and tell them how they should live it?

Live and let live.

I never insulted anyone here, you did. I never called anyone names or got angry towards them. I really think you're not even reading anything here.......

"It doesn't end" and "No matter how they look like or idenfity as"

Then you're okay with a 30 year old man to identify as a 9 year old girl? Or a human man pushing facts away and saying he is a plant, woman or dog? They are pushing facts away and twisting their reality.

Anyway if a man wants to identify as a woman so be it, go ahead. But dont force me to call you a woman as your biology is clearly different. If I was an employer I would employ a trans person np but if that trans person was born a man it's policy in my business that men use the men toilets.

You can be a woman but I'm not going to disregard facts and be forced to say you are a woman.

Also, you call people lunatics just because they want to live the life they want. So you can call them lunatics and and insult them and that's okay?

"Just let us be" "Live and let live" "It's not my place to say" "Mind your own business". These "arguments" and all variations of them are just infantile appeals to nonjudgementalism, a nice word for indifference. Unfortunately for all you relativists and anarcho-libertarians we live in societies where what we do, promote, and allow has consequences for everyone.

Either make your case that a woman really can be trapped in a man's body, or don't. Saying "it doesn't really matter just let people follow their own truth you big meanie" is sidestepping the question.

Fuck them, they need some medical treatment

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 09:04

"just because you're pretending to be 8" I and many others can say that you any trans person about male and genders.

Again mate. You keep taking this whole thing to heart and neglecting your own argument....Your own argument....

Many people have identified as cats, snakes and dogs and for those you think they are lunatics? Answer please.
They can identify as transgender if they please because they said so and others will support them with "live let live" just like waffle here.

I understand that you want transgenderism to only be about genders. But the fact clearly is it has drastically changed. Look at the video Acquiesce gave us and the world book of record's....

I brought up the lgbt movement to Acquiesce because I was talking to him then you replied to me defending it....

I am trying to "push" this idea(fact) that transgenderism is more than gender because we can clearly see it is more than that. Especially with this non binary movement supports this even greater.

The people that are cats, dogs, snakes, changing age and so on are using your argument you stated a while ago. Why should the not live life the way they want just because you call them a lunatic?

EDIT; 8chan is not dead and younglove boards are more active than they've ever been.

i haven't been neglecting my argument at all... i've been saying that pretending to be a cat and identifying as another gender is totally different. transgenderism is about genders, the definition says that it is only about genders and that is final. nothing has drastically changed. stop cherry picking some videos from some hbo nonsense to base your viewpoints because they are completely nonsensical. please provide me with one shred of evidence that points towards the fact that most trans people are starting to pretend like cats, dogs or pretending to be 9. you can't because the majority of trans people are still about gender identity. all you have done is push this fictional idea that has no factual backing whatsoever.

it's like me saying since you're a eat meat eater is it ok for you to eat humans?

i don't know if you can't comprehend what i've been saying or not. i get how you're trying to enlighten us how it's supposedly "hypocritical" how i'm saying pretending to be the other gender is ok while pretending to be a cat is not. the problem with that argument itself is that you're comparing two different things. it's like me saying since you're a eat meat eater is it ok for you to eat humans?

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 09:27

Anyway if a man wants to identify as a woman so be it, go ahead. But dont force me to call you a woman as your biology is clearly different. If I was an employer I would employ a trans person np but if that trans person was born a man it's policy in my business that men use the men toilets.

You can be a woman but I'm not going to disregard facts and be forced to say you are a woman.

nobody is forcing you. they're just going to ask you. there has not been one instance in my 32 years of life where i was forced to call someone by their preferred pronoun. i was asked by them. what kind of fictional world do you live in?

if a trans person asks you to address them in their preferred gender then do it. don't be so edgy that you're willing to disrespect someone for something as so little as a pronoun.

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 11:31

Also, you call people lunatics just because they want to live the life they want. So you can call them lunatics and and insult them and that's okay?

yes, because there is a fine line between a transgendered person and some guy who wants to pretend as a little child.

Scris de boywind2, 04.06.2018 at 14:42

i don't know if you can't comprehend what i've been saying or not. i get how you're trying to enlighten us how it's supposedly "hypocritical" how i'm saying pretending to be the other gender is ok while pretending to be a cat is not. the problem with that argument itself is that you're comparing two different things. it's like me saying since you're a eat meat eater is it ok for you to eat humans?

There are persuasive distinctions to be made between eating animal meat and eating human beings. It's very easy to accept one and not the other. Moreover, it isn't <.1% of the population eating animal meat. It's a normal, natural, non pathological human behavior practiced by most human beings.

I don't think the same can be said of your view. If we accept that a person can ignore a biological reality with respect to gender, on what grounds can we deny a grown man thinking he is 7 years old? On what grounds can we say a white person who feels black isn't African? The only tool you have left is feelings which are necessarily pretty subjective.

Scris de boywind2, 04.06.2018 at 14:49

yes, because there is a fine line between a transgendered person and some guy who wants to pretend as a little child.

And that line is what exactly?

I can tell you that up until 40 years ago those two men would be viewed as equally suffering mental disorders.

Scris de Acquiesce, 04.06.2018 at 15:32

And that line is what exactly?

I can tell you that up until 40 years ago those two men would be viewed as equally suffering mental disorders.

If it happened in the 70s then it's must be right.

Scris de boywind2, 04.06.2018 at 14:49

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 09:27

Anyway if a man wants to identify as a woman so be it, go ahead. But dont force me to call you a woman as your biology is clearly different. If I was an employer I would employ a trans person np but if that trans person was born a man it's policy in my business that men use the men toilets.

You can be a woman but I'm not going to disregard facts and be forced to say you are a woman.

nobody is forcing you. they're just going to ask you. there has not been one instance in my 32 years of life where i was forced to call someone by their preferred pronoun. i was asked by them. what kind of fictional world do you live in?

if a trans person asks you to address them in their preferred gender then do it. don't be so edgy that you're willing to disrespect someone for something as so little as a pronoun.

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 11:31

Also, you call people lunatics just because they want to live the life they want. So you can call them lunatics and and insult them and that's okay?

yes, because there is a fine line between a transgendered person and some guy who wants to pretend as a little child.

"Nobody is forcing you" then you say this,
"if a trans person asks you to address them in their preferred gender then do it"

"Then do it"

...

I'm getting all this from the horse's mouth. I talk to many other people on other forums about this and they agree with people wanting to be a certain age, even other trans people agree. Believe it or not I even go out on O Connell Street, abbey street and other places in Dublin city and ask them about a lot of different topics. I always like getting others opinions on things and a fair few of them agree with all this nonsense.

I don't believe I ever said "this is what trans people are doing, turning into cats, dogs and so on" or even "most" i said imagine what the people can do with the same argument you gave me at the start. What's to stop others that actually want to identify as a dog, cat etc... with your argument and these extreme people that say "you're a bigot if you don't allow this person to live the life they want" (really got that shouted at me before)

So yes the trans movement has changed drastically, over here anyway.

Do you support the video about the Transgender 50 year old man that changed into a little child? The evidence is there on that one. Do you agree with that one?

The point is, which I don't think you're getting is that if you can say to society "I'm a woman now" and that man saying "I'm a child now" what's to stop others turning into whatever they say and label it as transgender or non binary?
That's the point I'm trying to get across. Where does it end?, "if they can do it, then I can do this" (Pretending or not, seriously or not)
Labeling it as transgender or not, labelling it as non binary or not.

LGBT..."Plus" is pushing alot of extreme ideologies on people nowadays.

Again. I don't hate you, never will, never would want to put the time into it. I don't hate any trans person or even any person, if It ever seemed like I was insulting, I do apologize, it was not my intention.
You say you're 32? Societies views have changed alot on acceptance...a bit...too much of acceptance.

I study and teach about the human body for a living and to be honest im laughing about your interpretation of biology. Theres nothing "normal" in the human body, nothing. Theres genetic instructions and then theres what works. And that is the only thing our body is interested in. Does it work? If yes let it be. If no, get it the fuck out. Do you know how many "transgender" cells we have? Its a fucking drag festival up in there, even proteins and carbs, the worst enemies sometimes flirt with the dark side and...glycoproteins..oh the horror! Oh my god and what if the baby fat cells see all those transgender glycogens and want to do it to. What a retarded argument..

Tomorow, if i am born an epithelial cell living in the skin and the day after i decide i dont like it, i want to change my identity and become a connective tissue, (even though i carry specific genetic instructions) do you know what happens? I undergo chemical transformation and tomorrow i become a fucking fibroblast in the connective tissue. Just like that. Nobody bats an eyelash.

Our whole society is a replica of whats going on inside our bodies and we can look there for answers. We have 100 trillion cells, 70% are illegal immigrants (bacteria). Do you think we give welfare to all and hold hands? Hell no, we execute all that are harmful and keep only the good ones. How about education? The body knows how important it is, the sperm has zero instructions when born, it has to stay 2 weeks to boarding school to get educated on what to do when it gets inside the pussay. It cant even move until its in the penis where it undergoes military training to get mobility.

Tldr. You all trying to explain biology using philosophical reasoning and moral/ethical grounds. You niggas know shit, leave the trans alone. Just kill the liberal, social justice dumtards and that vile thing they call community. And commies too, theres no anarchism in the human body.

Scris de Rock Lee, 04.06.2018 at 15:48

If it happened in the 70s then it's must be right.

Must be right? Nope, didn't say that. Simply that when challenging the received wisdom of the last 10,000 years the burden falls on you to show me why everybody else got it wrong.

Scris de Khal.eesi, 04.06.2018 at 16:23

I study and teach about the human body for a living and to be honest im laughing about your interpretation of biology. Theres nothing "normal" in the human body, nothing.

Frankly, I'm laughing at your interpretation, which as someone who knows you very well is obviously colored by your preference for the peculiar. You consider yourself allied to the unorthodox, aberrant, and unusual so you let that feeling direct your philosophy.

The truth is that there's very obviously a great deal of "normal" we can talk about with regard to the human body. This is in fact what we call medicine. In a quote, "Though there may be doubt about the way in which the body breaks down, there is no doubt at all about the shape in which it should be built up again. No doctor proposes to produce a new kind of man, with a new arrangement of eyes or limbs. The hospital, by necessity, may send a man home with one leg less: but it will not (in a creative rapture) send him home with one leg extra. Medical science is content with the normal human body, and only seeks to restore it."

Sight is normal, blindness is irregular and undesirable. An appetite is normal, bulimia is irregular and undesirable. Being at home in your body is normal, body integrity identity disorder is irregular and undesirable. Feeling comfortable with your assigned sex is normal, gender dysphoria is irregular and undesirable.

Scris de Acquiesce, 04.06.2018 at 17:54

Must be right? Nope, didn't say that. Simply that when challenging the received wisdom of the last 10,000 years the burden falls on you to show me why everybody else got it wrong.

Yeah I see your point. Machoism comes from core fundamental principals like family patriarchy order and leadership. people had to stick together no matter what and do repulsive things so civilisation can survive. nowdays it is just overreaction. modern equilavent will be perfectly healthy people who lock themselves in a bubble in fear of dirt or children who can not communciate because someone hurted them 20 years ago. ofcourse you can prove it has touch with the past or reason but it's so feeble it's irrelevant and often wrong.

Here we are, in 2018 where the same people who talk about humans moving forwards with ideas,open minded, democracy, are the ones who debate if they support transgenders or not.
Serious question, can people get any dumber?

ancesters would be discusted of yall..

but thats none of my business If your kids turn out to be transgender in the future, i hope yall come back and read the shit you wrote here lool

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 11:31

Also, you call people lunatics just because they want to live the life they want. So you can call them lunatics and and insult them and that's okay?

baka

Scris de AlBoZzZ, 04.06.2018 at 23:40

ancesters would be discusted of yall..

We are who we are

Besides. I am sure your ancestors would'nt like to see you ditching Albania for lifeway that you don't believe in just because it's easier.

Scris de boywind2, 05.06.2018 at 04:52

Scris de DeepFriedUnicorn, 04.06.2018 at 11:31

Also, you call people lunatics just because they want to live the life they want. So you can call them lunatics and and insult them and that's okay?

baka

That's a good enough argument though...

Ce filled with bile as always

Who cares, leave them alone.

Scris de Rock Lee, 05.06.2018 at 13:20

Scris de AlBoZzZ, 04.06.2018 at 23:40

ancesters would be discusted of yall..

We are who we are

Besides. I am sure your ancestors would'nt like to see you ditching Albania for lifeway that you don't believe in just because it's easier.

i believe in this "lifeway". Just because i dont agree with transgenderism doesnt make me a "this lifeway hater" lol

Scris de Waffel, 03.06.2018 at 15:49

I am pretty sure most transgender people don't even want all the attention and the special treatments, they just want to be handled normal, interact normal, live like a normal person.

Who are you to say otherwise?

what disgusts me more about them, is the way they play the "victim" card at their employees , or when they try to sue someone.

i think many people became transgenders to have benefits lol

Scris de AlBoZzZ, 07.06.2018 at 14:51

what disgusts me more about them, is the way they play the "victim" card at their employees , or when they try to sue someone.

i think many people became transgenders to have benefits lol

So youre judging all transgender people by the liberal crazies you hear about in the media?

Scris de Guest, 04.06.2018 at 13:22

Fuck them, they need some medical treatment

not just that, the people that produce these words like "Non Binary" or "Gender Fluid" and "Cis Gender" should be put into Insane Asylums and be researched by people in white doctor uniforms

as for the whole Identifying stuff, i identify as a Attack Helicopter whit a Nuclear Warhead strapped underneath - Respect my Right to Blow up Cities?

Scris de Rock Lee, 04.06.2018 at 18:46

Scris de Acquiesce, 04.06.2018 at 17:54

Must be right? Nope, didn't say that. Simply that when challenging the received wisdom of the last 10,000 years the burden falls on you to show me why everybody else got it wrong.

Yeah I see your point. Machoism comes from core fundamental principals like family patriarchy order and leadership. people had to stick together no matter what and do repulsive things so civilisation can survive. nowdays it is just overreaction. modern equilavent will be perfectly healthy people who lock themselves in a bubble in fear of dirt or children who can not communciate because someone hurted them 20 years ago. ofcourse you can prove it has touch with the past or reason but it's so feeble it's irrelevant and often wrong.

Family - Order & Leadership sounds like perfectly fine principles as for Patriachy thats a Myth next thing we'll see is the Pay Gap "also a Myth" being brought up

Tldr, because I know for a fact some retardies here will glue Transgenders to what the Liberal degenerated US media portrays