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Postat de boywind2, 30.11.2017 - 01:19
I think the nerf wasn't enough. It is incredibly OP on eu+ and especially on eu.

Also don't reply with "it's not OP because it's beatable" because that doesn't even prove in the slightest bit that DS isn't op.
03.12.2017 - 18:27
Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 18:23

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.
u wont beat 9/10 ppl with ukr unless you are ds.
also, let's be serious here. no one plays ds on other maps except eu and eu+.
on aw, at most people only play like 20 different maps and i am 100% sure that more than half don't even have units for ds.
where ds really matters is in the competitive scene in eu and eu+.

A lot of bold statements with no clear evidence to back it up. You're singling out 1 country and 1 strategy for that country out of thousands of other picks in the game.


ok, which statements do u disagree with.

also, i don't only mean ukr.

ds pol and ds serb pretty good too in eu map.
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03.12.2017 - 18:28
Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 17:47

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 16:18


i will beat anyone 9/10 times if i play DS ukr vs germ.

well yea obviously, it's clearly more likely UKR will win, that's like saying you will beat most people 9/10 if you play turk VS any west also.
The logic is sound. If there is already something else that can beat it (turkey), then there is no need for a nerf on DS. Especially since EU+ isn't the only map that plays DS. Think about the thousands of other maps and starting points this would effect. Not just UKR.


u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.

u wont beat 9/10 ppl with ukr unless you are ds.

also, let's be serious here. no one plays ds on other maps except eu and eu+.

on aw, at most people only play like 20 different maps and i am 100% sure that more than half don't even have units for ds.

where ds really matters is in the competitive scene in eu and eu+.

and i'm not asking for a nerf that kills the strat and make it like ra. just a tweak to make ds more than just retard rush strat that anyone can use to win.


I agree that ds is obnoxious to play against but stop making up nonsense stats. I didnt play vs many ds ukrs during its op phase a few months ago but my winrate has always been very strong vs it. In fact its extremely rare that i lose. Im actually confident i could beat it 9/10 times if you were to try it vs my turk. Especially if i know its coming.
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03.12.2017 - 18:41
Scris de Permamuted, 03.12.2017 at 18:28

I agree that ds is obnoxious to play against but stop making up nonsense stats. I didnt play vs many ds ukrs during its op phase a few months ago but my winrate has always been very strong vs it. In fact its extremely rare that i lose. Im actually confident i could beat it 9/10 times if you were to try it vs my turk. Especially if i know its coming.


which part is nonsense?

i understand there is no evidence towards my statements, but from my experience on atwar, it's true.

you won't beat someone in west 9/10 times as turk and same goes for ukr.

but you will if you play DS ukr vs germ.

DS is 10x more cancerous on EU than on EU+.

i'm more peeved about ppl playing ds on eu rather than eu+ tbh.
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03.12.2017 - 18:54
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Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:27




ok, which statements do u disagree with.


any high funding country is decent with DS. you just said it yourself, (Pol and Serb)

Nerfing it would mean that it would make ANY high funding small country obsolete.
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03.12.2017 - 19:28
Lao, 10 duels.

me ds ukr u turk.
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03.12.2017 - 20:51
Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 19:28

Lao, 10 duels.

me ds ukr u turk.


k hit me up when youre on.
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04.12.2017 - 00:39
Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:41

you won't beat someone in west 9/10 times as turk and same goes for ukr.

but you will if you play DS ukr vs germ.

Just to add something here.
You can play almost anything that has any pressure as ukr vs ger, you'll have the advantage most of the times.
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04.12.2017 - 02:43
Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 17:47

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 16:18


i will beat anyone 9/10 times if i play DS ukr vs germ.

well yea obviously, it's clearly more likely UKR will win, that's like saying you will beat most people 9/10 if you play turk VS any west also.
The logic is sound. If there is already something else that can beat it (turkey), then there is no need for a nerf on DS. Especially since EU+ isn't the only map that plays DS. Think about the thousands of other maps and starting points this would effect. Not just UKR.


u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.


germany> turkey
not sure if uk also can out power it but i think they are almost equal
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04.12.2017 - 02:45
Scris de SyrianDevil, 04.12.2017 at 02:43

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 17:47

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 16:18


i will beat anyone 9/10 times if i play DS ukr vs germ.

well yea obviously, it's clearly more likely UKR will win, that's like saying you will beat most people 9/10 if you play turk VS any west also.
The logic is sound. If there is already something else that can beat it (turkey), then there is no need for a nerf on DS. Especially since EU+ isn't the only map that plays DS. Think about the thousands of other maps and starting points this would effect. Not just UKR.


u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.


germany> turkey
not sure if uk also can out power it but i think they are almost equal

agree
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04.12.2017 - 08:41
Scris de SyrianDevil, 04.12.2017 at 02:43

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 17:47

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 16:18


i will beat anyone 9/10 times if i play DS ukr vs germ.

well yea obviously, it's clearly more likely UKR will win, that's like saying you will beat most people 9/10 if you play turk VS any west also.
The logic is sound. If there is already something else that can beat it (turkey), then there is no need for a nerf on DS. Especially since EU+ isn't the only map that plays DS. Think about the thousands of other maps and starting points this would effect. Not just UKR.


u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.


germany> turkey
not sure if uk also can out power it but i think they are almost equal


disagree. Germany v turk is a pretty equal battle. Uk has no chance tho providing turk is a good player who knows how to expand efficiently.
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04.12.2017 - 08:44
Scris de Permamuted, 04.12.2017 at 08:41

Scris de SyrianDevil, 04.12.2017 at 02:43

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 17:47

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 16:18


i will beat anyone 9/10 times if i play DS ukr vs germ.

well yea obviously, it's clearly more likely UKR will win, that's like saying you will beat most people 9/10 if you play turk VS any west also.
The logic is sound. If there is already something else that can beat it (turkey), then there is no need for a nerf on DS. Especially since EU+ isn't the only map that plays DS. Think about the thousands of other maps and starting points this would effect. Not just UKR.


u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.


germany> turkey
not sure if uk also can out power it but i think they are almost equal


disagree. Germany v turk is a pretty equal battle. Uk has no chance tho providing turk is a good player who knows how to expand efficiently.

When comes the part half of AW quote you and say "make game I am UK you're turk"
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04.12.2017 - 10:45
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Scris de SyrianDevil, 04.12.2017 at 02:43

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 18:19

Scris de PleaseMe, 03.12.2017 at 17:47

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 16:18


i will beat anyone 9/10 times if i play DS ukr vs germ.

well yea obviously, it's clearly more likely UKR will win, that's like saying you will beat most people 9/10 if you play turk VS any west also.
The logic is sound. If there is already something else that can beat it (turkey), then there is no need for a nerf on DS. Especially since EU+ isn't the only map that plays DS. Think about the thousands of other maps and starting points this would effect. Not just UKR.


u wont beat 9/10 ppl playing turk on eu.


germany> turkey
not sure if uk also can out power it but i think they are almost equal

UK never wins vs turk
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16.12.2017 - 07:47
Scris de Permamuted, 03.12.2017 at 20:51

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 19:28

Lao, 10 duels.

me ds ukr u turk.


k hit me up when youre on.

did you ever play these duels
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16.12.2017 - 14:45
Scris de Nations, 16.12.2017 at 07:47

Scris de Permamuted, 03.12.2017 at 20:51

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 19:28

Lao, 10 duels.

me ds ukr u turk.


k hit me up when youre on.

did you ever play these duels


yes two times though
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17.12.2017 - 05:06
Scris de boywind2, 16.12.2017 at 14:45

Scris de Nations, 16.12.2017 at 07:47

Scris de Permamuted, 03.12.2017 at 20:51

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 19:28

Lao, 10 duels.

me ds ukr u turk.


k hit me up when youre on.

did you ever play these duels


yes two times though

Who won
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17.12.2017 - 07:36
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Scris de Nations, 17.12.2017 at 05:06

Scris de boywind2, 16.12.2017 at 14:45

Scris de Nations, 16.12.2017 at 07:47

Scris de Permamuted, 03.12.2017 at 20:51

Scris de boywind2, 03.12.2017 at 19:28

Lao, 10 duels.

me ds ukr u turk.


k hit me up when youre on.

did you ever play these duels


yes two times though

Who won

1:1
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20.12.2017 - 11:40
Nerf fast
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20.12.2017 - 13:31
As long as you nerf helis on ds its ok
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20.12.2017 - 14:16
Nerf nerf
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20.12.2017 - 15:36
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Nerf
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20.12.2017 - 17:34
Scris de Witch-Doctor, 20.12.2017 at 15:36

Nerf



okay, ds fag.
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20.12.2017 - 18:30
Scris de Nations, 20.12.2017 at 14:16

Nerf nerf


I am going to ds rush u at every available opportunity.
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21.12.2017 - 04:10
Scris de Permamuted, 20.12.2017 at 18:30

Scris de Nations, 20.12.2017 at 14:16

Nerf nerf


I am going to ds rush u at every available opportunity.

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