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Postat de Sultan of Swing, 27.11.2016 - 21:33
I understand you may not actually want to read all this ( I wouldn't its kinda a lot lol) but I really want everyone who claims to be competitive to read through this and give thoughts/comments please, thanks!

Something that I've noticed over the past year is that high ranks, myself included, have been very hostile to new player trying to come into the competitive scene. They may join a 3v3, 2v2, or whatever and make a pick that is not customary or widely accepted. Furthermore they might make a pick that is normal to these kind of games, but may not have the best expansion or the best movements throughout the game . In both cases, spectators or people in game start to rage real quick and drop comments like "wow noob" or "wtf is this bullshit I'm out"; you name it. I don't at all plead innocent to this, its very tempting to do since these kinds of players seem to ruin your game that you may have tried to remake four times!! But, let's put ourselves in these low ranks' shoes or new players' shoes. How would you feel if someone started publicly abusing you and embarrassing you in front of an entire game of people? You'd feel like crap! How likely would you be to rejoin another competitive game in the future? Chances are you ain't joinin no game of the sort in the future.

Well here we are now.. "AW is dead" "wow this game is so dead" when yet in actuality.. IT ISNT! I know, wild claim, but here are the facts. The player number actually hasn't dropped drastically over the years according to Sun Tzu. A lot of competitive players have left, which is why AtWar seems dead. As all these competitive players are leaving because of real life situations, or just simply bored of the game, whose suppose to fill the void? The 1, or maybe 2 low ranks that 4 clans have trained over the years? Its simple as this, no AW is not dead, but the competitive scene IS dead. Why? Because of the negativity of players when they encounter a "noob" or a player who is new to the 3v3 scene and doesn't know what their doing. Why do so many players flock to RP and scenarios? BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE RECEPTIVE! A novel idea, I know, I know. Not because those games are fun (cos if u ask me waiting around for a game to start is not my definition of fun) or because the people there are really nice and open to anyone. Some of my closest friends that I've made on AW is not from the competitive scene, but from people I met when I first joined AW and played scenarios.

Solution? Simple. Lets all try to be a little nicer to these new players. Instead of tell them they suck and be negative towards them, lets try to encourage them, and in turn, encourage the growth of competitive play. You want the CW scene to come back? That's up to everyone in the community. Let's all come together and try to be a little more positive in our treatment of new members to the competitive scene, and maybe we can "revive" the competitive scene and bring the CW levels back up, which I personally would love!


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29.11.2016 - 08:06
Scris de Guest, 29.11.2016 at 01:24

None of you guys actually respond to ce's point. He got a point there. Lao is a hypocrite fag. And i dont see him being nice to noobs either and want to act saint infront of everybody? What kind of act this irish fag pulling? Even made fun of a low rank that ask him 'hello how are you' even called me r6 when he got nothing to say. Thinking hes a rank 12 and most cool dude on atwar lol. Instead of saying stuff that doesnt make sense use some facts will ya lao? Instead of using hdrakon , pavle , low rank , im an ex mod, welcome to the list. As your escape plan. And if this game's dead what are you doing here man? Ahh right. Hypocrites back at it again


because dear you're an idiot. And your post got upvoted by 2 other idiots adding further credibility to the quality of your idiocy. And nobody argues with idiots.
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29.11.2016 - 08:25
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Scris de Permamuted, 29.11.2016 at 08:06

Scris de Guest, 29.11.2016 at 01:24

None of you guys actually respond to ce's point. He got a point there. Lao is a hypocrite fag. And i dont see him being nice to noobs either and want to act saint infront of everybody? What kind of act this irish fag pulling? Even made fun of a low rank that ask him 'hello how are you' even called me r6 when he got nothing to say. Thinking hes a rank 12 and most cool dude on atwar lol. Instead of saying stuff that doesnt make sense use some facts will ya lao? Instead of using hdrakon , pavle , low rank , im an ex mod, welcome to the list. As your escape plan. And if this game's dead what are you doing here man? Ahh right. Hypocrites back at it again


because dear you're an idiot. And your post got upvoted by 2 other idiots adding further credibility to the quality of your idiocy. And nobody argues with idiots.

You got triggered by an upvote? Are you really that sad? Called me an idiot but run away from the fact that i just slapped in your face. You show your true color here. You didnt even respond to exactly what i said. You didnt even deny. And you try to spin the whole situation by calling out ce & klevis idiots because they upvoted me shows how butthurt and childish you are. I know you wont come up with anything because everything i said about you is true.
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29.11.2016 - 08:30
Scris de Guest, 29.11.2016 at 01:24

None of you guys actually respond to ce's point. He got a point there. Lao is a hypocrite fag. And i dont see him being nice to noobs either and want to act saint infront of everybody? What kind of act this irish fag pulling? Even made fun of a low rank that ask him 'hello how are you' even called me r6 when he got nothing to say. Thinking hes a rank 12 and most cool dude on atwar lol. Instead of saying stuff that doesnt make sense use some facts will ya lao? Instead of using hdrakon , pavle , low rank , im an ex mod, welcome to the list. As your escape plan. And if this game's dead what are you doing here man? Ahh right. Hypocrites back at it again

True say, I don't even know Lao that much and all of a sudden he accuses me of being hdrakon and harasses me in threads. He says he has quit atWar yet he's always on the forums bitching about one thing or another.

Also Sultan, it isn't the high ranks that are abusing low ranks (except Corrambo), I remember witnessing rank 8's from Vibes making fun of people making mistakes in a 3v3 and CWs in general, very annoying. Apart from that, if you've noticed in recent 3v3 games, they're always filled with low ranks (rank 8s/9s), so I guess you can say we're making progress?
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29.11.2016 - 08:49
Scris de Khal.eesi, 28.11.2016 at 16:23

I also don't remember any pro competitive player insulting noobs back in the day, except the usual cases of narbs (commando) or assholes ( kebabs, mauzar) or narb + assholes (commando), so the real problem is you don't have REAL COMPETITIVE players nowdays. (causation-//-effect)

ur missing the point like lao.. pro schmo... i referred to r9+ in any game... semantics...........
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29.11.2016 - 08:51
Well this got off topic quick...


also, maybe i wasn't clear enough. Never once did i say that what I proposed was the ONLY reason.. never. I just said this is a contributing factor that I've noticed, no need to get emotional guys..... lets be logical.....

also please stop being an idiot CE thanks
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29.11.2016 - 10:41
Trollers gonna troll
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29.11.2016 - 11:53
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Scris de RaulPB, 29.11.2016 at 04:40

Scris de iyu, 28.11.2016 at 12:38

One thing I am disgruntled with is the lack of help from the 'competitive' scene, I have tried the FMC(find a mentor centre), messaged a solid chunk of people only to find out they aren't active anymore, so instead we have conversations about tactics etc. While this is helpful, I am given gold dust in my inbox I find this harder to implement in game, although I do thank the people I have spoken too for their time.

As for the adopt-a-newb program, my application has been up for a few weeks now, I assume many have read it, but have only been approached by one player, then to be ignored by him when I ask what time they are free.

Well, there you have the actual issue. Right now, there isn't an attitude problem from "competitive players", simply because we aren't active any more haha so instead of asking for assistance when you've noticed there's no one to help you, maybe you should try do what some of us did back in our days, learn by yourself. It's actually not that hard considering the information you can find nowadays in forums. But yeah, I obviously can understand your struggle and it's up to you to choose your path.


Fair points but the scenario scene and RP scene weren't so dominating when you were learning the game in 2013, people had mainly the 'competitive;' scene to go to, well as I'm sure you are aware this is no longer the case, scenario and RP are by far the most popular maps, times have changed therefore the way things are done must change.

People must reach out to new people if they want to keep their side of the game alive.

Think about it, why should I spend hours getting my butt handed to me when in FFA's in EU+ when everyone allies to beat me down just because I don't choose stupid countries to start in and grow faster, when I can just hop on a RP game where the skill level isn't as big of a factor?

Every new player has a choice, currently 'competitive' is the hardest to go into so why should anyone choose it?

Things need to change.
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29.11.2016 - 12:28
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29.11.2016 - 12:32
Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 11:53

Fair points but the scenario scene and RP scene weren't so dominating when you were learning the game in 2013, people had mainly the 'competitive;' scene to go to, well as I'm sure you are aware this is no longer the case, scenario and RP are by far the most popular maps, times have changed therefore the way things are done must change.

People must reach out to new people if they want to keep their side of the game alive.

Think about it, why should I spend hours getting my butt handed to me when in FFA's in EU+ when everyone allies to beat me down just because I don't choose stupid countries to start in and grow faster, when I can just hop on a RP game where the skill level isn't as big of a factor?

Every new player has a choice, currently 'competitive' is the hardest to go into so why should anyone choose it?

Things need to change.


That's a myth, from the moment scenarios showed up they were the most popular thing, only diffrence is that world games were for premiums only so it attracted more people.

"Competitive"? even Empire srb that are famous for laughting at zizou and dalmati ally fagged and made games of mass latejoining and rejoining million times to kill 9999 troops and gain sp, even in the beginning of WWII some hosts spent whole nights at picking until they had the team they wanted, the community was stacking and ally fagging since its beginning.

i don't know if you are new. but if you want to learn there are plenty of people that would like to help you, good luck.
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29.11.2016 - 13:16
Scris de Sultan of Swing, 29.11.2016 at 08:49

ur missing the point like lao.. pro schmo... i referred to r9+ in any game... semantics...........


you missed my point. Not every r9+ is pro or even debatably pro. You might think so but you are wrong. Everyone who reached the top tier or "pro" level are objectively easy to identify. Its not a very big list, i could name them(well at least those who were active while i played). There's no semantics involved.
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29.11.2016 - 13:30
Scris de iyu, 28.11.2016 at 12:38

One thing I am disgruntled with is the lack of help from the 'competitive' scene, I have tried the FMC(find a mentor centre), messaged a solid chunk of people only to find out they aren't active anymore, so instead we have conversations about tactics etc. While this is helpful, I am given gold dust in my inbox I find this harder to implement in game, although I do thank the people I have spoken too for their time.


Well you are pretty new. As a non prem r4 your level of player is a notoriously non committal breed to the game. I could achieve r4 in a few hours. I cannot count the number of r4s/5s who i have invested time into helping who have then disappeared and never played again. I remember i joined one of the orginal adopt a newb programs(by madara or mou) and the low ranks i was assigned didnt take advantage of my offer to help at all. Theyd no interest.

On the flipside once you reach r6/7 youll find people a lot more willing to help. If you buy premium and/or even better show a little talent then i can guarantee you every competitive player will be trying to get you into their clan. Talented and interested low ranks are extremely hard to come by.
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29.11.2016 - 13:34
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Scris de Permamuted, 29.11.2016 at 13:27

Scris de iyu, 28.11.2016 at 12:38

One thing I am disgruntled with is the lack of help from the 'competitive' scene, I have tried the FMC(find a mentor centre), messaged a solid chunk of people only to find out they aren't active anymore, so instead we have conversations about tactics etc. While this is helpful, I am given gold dust in my inbox I find this harder to implement in game, although I do thank the people I have spoken too for their time.


Well you are pretty new. As a non prem r4 your level of player is a notoriously non committal breed to the game. I cannot count the number of r4s/5s who i have invested time into helping who have then disappeared and never played again. I remember i joined one of the orginal adopt a newb programs(by madara or mou) and the low ranks i was assigned didnt take advantage of my offer to help at all. Theyd no interest.

On the flipside once you reach r6/7 youll find people a lot more willing to help. If you buy premium and/or even better show a little talent then i can guarantee you every competitive player will be trying to get you into their clan. Talented and interested low ranks are extremely hard to come by.


Thanks for the helpful post, I completely understand where you are coming from, I'll retry to find solid help later down the line.
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29.11.2016 - 13:46
Scris de Permamuted, 29.11.2016 at 13:16

Scris de Sultan of Swing, 29.11.2016 at 08:49

ur missing the point like lao.. pro schmo... i referred to r9+ in any game... semantics...........


you missed my point. Not every r9+ is pro or even debatably pro. You might think so but you are wrong. Everyone who reached the top tier or "pro" level are objectively easy to identify. Its not a very big list, i could name them(well at least those who were active while i played). There's no semantics involved.

stop making this an argument lao. OK SO I SAID PRO SHOOT ME! all I'm saying, is that people of ranks r8 or r9 an up are doing this.. WHO CARES IF I SAID PRO OR NOT, ITS IRRELEVANT!


i bet lao is trolling me
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29.11.2016 - 14:19
Oh and by the way its not the game or anything related to that. Its the people that are the worst, especially the ranks combined with clans. People like Croat, Slutan, Njab, Pavle or anyother ''highranker nowdays'' started as a cute little rank 5/6 coming into the competitive scene and wanting to learn from the ''best''. When they reach rank 7/8 they start getting 'better' and get 'noticed', when this is happening their ego's are growing and they start beating people in 1v1's and 3v3's higher ranks than theirs. They become rank 9, this appears to be the rank where every cute little lowranker starts getting arrogant and thinks he is the best and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Suddenly this little cute lowranker starts having fights in public chats etc. Their attitude is changing and they think they actually have a word to say to the ''bigboys'', ofc being in a ''bigboy clan'' doubles the whole experience and makes them actually worse to handle.

Now when you've read this, you'll probably think what the fuck did I just read. If that happends, you are one of those cute little lowranks I hate.

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29.11.2016 - 14:21
Scris de Waffel, 29.11.2016 at 14:19

Oh and by the way its not the game or anything related to that. Its the people that are the worst, especially the ranks combined with clans. People like Croat, Sultan, Njab, Pavle or anyother ''highranker nowdays'' started as a cute little rank 5/6 coming into the competitive scene and wanting to learn from the ''best''. When they reach rank 7/8 they start getting 'better' and get 'noticed', when this is happening their ego's are growing and they start beating people in 1v1's and 3v3's higher rank than them. They become rank 9, this appears to be the rank where every cute little lowranker starts getting arrogant and thinks he is the best and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Suddenly this little cute lowranker starts having fights in public chats etc. Their attitude is changing and they think they actually have a word to say to the ''bigboys'', ofc being in a ''bigboy clan'' doubles the whole experience and makes them actually worse to handle.

Now when you've read this, you'll probably think what the fuck did I just read. If that happends, you are one of those cute little lowranks I hate.

No personal feelings <3

I have thought about this alot
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29.11.2016 - 14:42
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Scris de Waffel, 29.11.2016 at 14:19

started as a cute little rank 5/6 coming into the competitive scene and wanting to learn from the ''best''. When they reach rank 7/8 they start getting 'better' and get 'noticed', when this is happening their ego's are growing and they start beating people in 1v1's and 3v3's higher ranks than theirs. They become rank 9, this appears to be the rank where every cute little lowranker starts getting arrogant and thinks he is the best and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Suddenly this little cute lowranker starts having fights in public chats etc. Their attitude is changing and they think they actually have a word to say to the ''bigboys'', ofc being in a ''bigboy clan'' doubles the whole experience and makes them actually worse to handle.


Lmfao this was too funny to read. It's actually true of probably every competitive player though, not just narbs.
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29.11.2016 - 14:42
Scris de Sultan of Swing, 29.11.2016 at 13:46

Scris de Permamuted, 29.11.2016 at 13:16

Scris de Sultan of Swing, 29.11.2016 at 08:49

ur missing the point like lao.. pro schmo... i referred to r9+ in any game... semantics...........


you missed my point. Not every r9+ is pro or even debatably pro. You might think so but you are wrong. Everyone who reached the top tier or "pro" level are objectively easy to identify. Its not a very big list, i could name them(well at least those who were active while i played). There's no semantics involved.

stop making this an argument lao. OK SO I SAID PRO SHOOT ME! all I'm saying, is that people of ranks r8 or r9 an up are doing this.. WHO CARES IF I SAID PRO OR NOT, ITS IRRELEVANT!


i bet lao is trolling me


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29.11.2016 - 14:45
Scris de Acquiesce, 29.11.2016 at 14:42

Scris de Waffel, 29.11.2016 at 14:19

started as a cute little rank 5/6 coming into the competitive scene and wanting to learn from the ''best''. When they reach rank 7/8 they start getting 'better' and get 'noticed', when this is happening their ego's are growing and they start beating people in 1v1's and 3v3's higher ranks than theirs. They become rank 9, this appears to be the rank where every cute little lowranker starts getting arrogant and thinks he is the best and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Suddenly this little cute lowranker starts having fights in public chats etc. Their attitude is changing and they think they actually have a word to say to the ''bigboys'', ofc being in a ''bigboy clan'' doubles the whole experience and makes them actually worse to handle.


Lmfao this was too funny to read. It's actually true of probably every competitive player though, not just narbs.

Well yeah, welcome to Afterwind. This is literally happening since the day ive been playing this, as a cute little lowranker, :$
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29.11.2016 - 15:33
Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 11:53

Fair points but the scenario scene and RP scene weren't so dominating when you were learning the game in 2013, people had mainly the 'competitive;' scene to go to, well as I'm sure you are aware this is no longer the case, scenario and RP are by far the most popular maps, times have changed therefore the way things are done must change.

People must reach out to new people if they want to keep their side of the game alive.

Think about it, why should I spend hours getting my butt handed to me when in FFA's in EU+ when everyone allies to beat me down just because I don't choose stupid countries to start in and grow faster, when I can just hop on a RP game where the skill level isn't as big of a factor?

Every new player has a choice, currently 'competitive' is the hardest to go into so why should anyone choose it?

Things need to change.

You lack coherence. We're not talking about which path is the hardest or easiest, rather which path is the most supported one in any way. I personally learned by playing by myself, that's all. I didn't have teachers nor forum posts where to read and learn. It's that easy to learn, simply be curious about the mechanics, talk with people and experience the game.

Competitive scene was, is and will always be the hardest path to follow!! No matter how many people support you, it's always the hardest since it actually takes an effort to learn and to get experience in it. That's why RP doesn't need to reach anything or anyone, people simply come to it due to it being as simple as it can be.

Yes, things have changed. I myself helped do a couple of these kind of posts, which you can easily have access to or ask people to send you a link to them. And so have other people. So your arguments don't make any sense, there's more help nowadays than ever, even when most of these competitive players are inactive. Nothing else has changed... you've barely been here enough time to know how things were before.

Btw, the reason you get your ass handed when playing FFAs in Eu+ because people allyfag is that these people are RP'ers that feel the need to ally in order to ever be able to win. Simply lame, one of the reasons competitive FFA's have become a waste of time for the rest of the ethical players.
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29.11.2016 - 15:42
Scris de Checkmate., 29.11.2016 at 14:21

I have thought about this alot


Pls don't become an arrogant high rank.... pls
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29.11.2016 - 15:45
Scris de Acquiesce, 29.11.2016 at 14:42

Lmfao this was too funny to read. It's actually true of probably every competitive player though, not just narbs.

Not "every", I could name some exceptions, but yeah... many eventually become arrogant one day...
It's like if the rank symbol corrupted people
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29.11.2016 - 16:12
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Scris de RaulPB, 29.11.2016 at 15:33

Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 11:53

Fair points but the scenario scene and RP scene weren't so dominating when you were learning the game in 2013, people had mainly the 'competitive;' scene to go to, well as I'm sure you are aware this is no longer the case, scenario and RP are by far the most popular maps, times have changed therefore the way things are done must change.

People must reach out to new people if they want to keep their side of the game alive.

Think about it, why should I spend hours getting my butt handed to me when in FFA's in EU+ when everyone allies to beat me down just because I don't choose stupid countries to start in and grow faster, when I can just hop on a RP game where the skill level isn't as big of a factor?

Every new player has a choice, currently 'competitive' is the hardest to go into so why should anyone choose it?

Things need to change.

You lack coherence. We're not talking about which path is the hardest or easiest, rather which path is the most supported one in any way. I personally learned by playing by myself, that's all. I didn't have teachers nor forum posts where to read and learn. It's that easy to learn, simply be curious about the mechanics, talk with people and experience the game.

Competitive scene was, is and will always be the hardest path to follow!! No matter how many people support you, it's always the hardest since it actually takes an effort to learn and to get experience in it. That's why RP doesn't need to reach anything or anyone, people simply come to it due to it being as simple as it can be.

Yes, things have changed. I myself helped do a couple of these kind of posts, which you can easily have access to or ask people to send you a link to them. And so have other people. So your arguments don't make any sense, there's more help nowadays than ever, even when most of these competitive players are inactive. Nothing else has changed... you've barely been here enough time to know how things were before.

Btw, the reason you get your ass handed when playing FFAs in Eu+ because people allyfag is that these people are RP'ers that feel the need to ally in order to ever be able to win. Simply lame, one of the reasons competitive FFA's have become a waste of time for the rest of the ethical players.


Vaid points, I think the way I'm gonna go forward is self-teach till someone reaches out, Ive read around these forums enough to get a general idea of how things were.

Will have to learn to hold my own against 2 allyfags.
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29.11.2016 - 16:26
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Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 16:12

Scris de RaulPB, 29.11.2016 at 15:33

Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 11:53

Fair points but the scenario scene and RP scene weren't so dominating when you were learning the game in 2013, people had mainly the 'competitive;' scene to go to, well as I'm sure you are aware this is no longer the case, scenario and RP are by far the most popular maps, times have changed therefore the way things are done must change.

People must reach out to new people if they want to keep their side of the game alive.

Think about it, why should I spend hours getting my butt handed to me when in FFA's in EU+ when everyone allies to beat me down just because I don't choose stupid countries to start in and grow faster, when I can just hop on a RP game where the skill level isn't as big of a factor?

Every new player has a choice, currently 'competitive' is the hardest to go into so why should anyone choose it?

Things need to change.

You lack coherence. We're not talking about which path is the hardest or easiest, rather which path is the most supported one in any way. I personally learned by playing by myself, that's all. I didn't have teachers nor forum posts where to read and learn. It's that easy to learn, simply be curious about the mechanics, talk with people and experience the game.

Competitive scene was, is and will always be the hardest path to follow!! No matter how many people support you, it's always the hardest since it actually takes an effort to learn and to get experience in it. That's why RP doesn't need to reach anything or anyone, people simply come to it due to it being as simple as it can be.

Yes, things have changed. I myself helped do a couple of these kind of posts, which you can easily have access to or ask people to send you a link to them. And so have other people. So your arguments don't make any sense, there's more help nowadays than ever, even when most of these competitive players are inactive. Nothing else has changed... you've barely been here enough time to know how things were before.

Btw, the reason you get your ass handed when playing FFAs in Eu+ because people allyfag is that these people are RP'ers that feel the need to ally in order to ever be able to win. Simply lame, one of the reasons competitive FFA's have become a waste of time for the rest of the ethical players.


Vaid points, I think the way I'm gonna go forward is self-teach till someone reaches out, Ive read around these forums enough to get a general idea of how things were.

Will have to learn to hold my own against 2 allyfags.

You know how i dealt with allyfags? I became one. And at the end of the game i got 1st and end ally. I get most SP. That dude still pissed at me lol.
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29.11.2016 - 16:52
Scris de Waffel, 29.11.2016 at 14:19

Oh and by the way its not the game or anything related to that. Its the people that are the worst, especially the ranks combined with clans. People like Croat, Slutan, Njab, Pavle or anyother ''highranker nowdays'' started as a cute little rank 5/6 coming into the competitive scene and wanting to learn from the ''best''. When they reach rank 7/8 they start getting 'better' and get 'noticed', when this is happening their ego's are growing and they start beating people in 1v1's and 3v3's higher ranks than theirs. They become rank 9, this appears to be the rank where every cute little lowranker starts getting arrogant and thinks he is the best and can do whatever the fuck he wants. Suddenly this little cute lowranker starts having fights in public chats etc. Their attitude is changing and they think they actually have a word to say to the ''bigboys'', ofc being in a ''bigboy clan'' doubles the whole experience and makes them actually worse to handle.

Now when you've read this, you'll probably think what the fuck did I just read. If that happends, you are one of those cute little lowranks I hate.

No personal feelings <3

and then theres you whose been a b#tch since rank0 D

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29.11.2016 - 20:52
Scris de AlBoZzZ, 28.11.2016 at 17:35

This is maybe the 100th thread made about the same issue. And yet you dont see any of those noobs u defend comment here since they cant even use the forum.

It takes ages for a 3v3 to fill nowdays and after waiting for a long time for a noob to wf t1,or to make submarines as germany or not to send cash or to keep 40 units walled t1 or not to talk in ally chat its a bit messed up. I come here to play and have fun i cant care less about someone's feelings. If people who comment here and others are such a fragile little sissys then go play with dolls.

I have the right to kick off my game ehoever the hell i want and i can play with whoever i want. If you , lao , gay dicksucking khal are such angels and care so much about noobs why dont you start hosting low rank 3v3 and help them out? Why dont u participate more at adopt a newb program and actually do something with a newb? If theres a problem in this community you hypocrites are the first one to point fingers at others instead of trying to fix it yourself.
So to laochra and his faggots friends, again, if u rlly care about NOOBS try to do somethubg to fix the issue such as hosti g 3v3s and teaching them and dont give me that "i quit" bullshit, otherwise stay there as a player who quited the team and shut the fuck up.
You were the one who loved to be a mod, a faggot mod meesterwannabe and then you throwed away the trust admins gave you, you left modship and started talking shit about the game,admins and other noobs. Youre one of the biggest hypocrite snakes in this game so before you callout my name again because i want to have fun in this game , first point that finger to you and maybe shove it up khals ass. Pretty sure he would love it


Oh and i really dont care what a gay person like khal says about me. Gay people are to be burned alive therefor his opinion is multiplied with 0. Go suck some greek dick khal before talking bad about a straight man.

idiot lol
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02.12.2016 - 05:43
If everyone just muted ce, you would relise how much more peaceful it is to come here.
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02.12.2016 - 09:18
Scris de Helly, 02.12.2016 at 05:43

If everyone just muted ce, you would relise how much more peaceful it is to come here.

#stophatingce2016
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02.12.2016 - 13:30
Scris de RaulPB, 29.11.2016 at 15:33

Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 11:53

Fair points but the scenario scene and RP scene weren't so dominating when you were learning the game in 2013, people had mainly the 'competitive;' scene to go to, well as I'm sure you are aware this is no longer the case, scenario and RP are by far the most popular maps, times have changed therefore the way things are done must change.

People must reach out to new people if they want to keep their side of the game alive.

Think about it, why should I spend hours getting my butt handed to me when in FFA's in EU+ when everyone allies to beat me down just because I don't choose stupid countries to start in and grow faster, when I can just hop on a RP game where the skill level isn't as big of a factor?

Every new player has a choice, currently 'competitive' is the hardest to go into so why should anyone choose it?

Things need to change.

You lack coherence. We're not talking about which path is the hardest or easiest, rather which path is the most supported one in any way. I personally learned by playing by myself, that's all. I didn't have teachers nor forum posts where to read and learn. It's that easy to learn, simply be curious about the mechanics, talk with people and experience the game.

Competitive scene was, is and will always be the hardest path to follow!! No matter how many people support you, it's always the hardest since it actually takes an effort to learn and to get experience in it. That's why RP doesn't need to reach anything or anyone, people simply come to it due to it being as simple as it can be.

Yes, things have changed. I myself helped do a couple of these kind of posts, which you can easily have access to or ask people to send you a link to them. And so have other people. So your arguments don't make any sense, there's more help nowadays than ever, even when most of these competitive players are inactive. Nothing else has changed... you've barely been here enough time to know how things were before.

Btw, the reason you get your ass handed when playing FFAs in Eu+ because people allyfag is that these people are RP'ers that feel the need to ally in order to ever be able to win. Simply lame, one of the reasons competitive FFA's have become a waste of time for the rest of the ethical players.


wow.... rude
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02.12.2016 - 13:56
So much drama in a dead game, maybe atwar can live further on the forums alone, seems like this place is more active then the game
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02.12.2016 - 17:33
Scris de iyu, 29.11.2016 at 16:12

Will have to learn to hold my own against 2 allyfags.

That or find yourself a good friend to kill those allyfags and teach them a lesson XD
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