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Postat de ROYAL, 08.06.2017 - 03:59
Hi everyone,

I'm hdrakon, I'm speaking on my behalf with this account because my main account is currently suspended from using the forum. In this thread I will tell you the truth behind my "trouble-maker" reputation.

I've been playing this game for many years. I have dedicated a lot of my time, money and ideas that helped improve and will improve this game for all of us, and I don't regret it because I love this game. But with this there is a sad story. It was told by several moderators and my haters in a different way to depict me as a troll, or a villain, whose sole purpose is to ruin this game for the community. The facts say otherwise.

Date: Spring 2012
The reason I received this negative stigma started in spring 2012 when SRB empire clan members accused me of insulting one of their member's (VAGlNEER) ethnicity when they reported it to Guest14502. Guest14502 proceeded to mute me straight away on all public chats without speaking with me and without any evidence to support their allegation. I was upset and came back with a guest account and told Guest14502 in the heat of the moment to "ban me, I don't care," to which he replied "with pleasure.". I regretted saying that a day later and pleaded him to undo the ban but he'd ban me on sight. I kept getting banned and most of the mods didn't even know why I was banned in the first place. They just banned me because they thought, "Well he's banned by a mod and should remain banned." without inquiring for the reasons I'm banned. So from there on I began my campaign to free myself by using alts and spamming to get myself unbanned.

A few months later Guest1452 realized it was a mistake after VAGlNEER confirmed to him that SRB Empire members falsely accused me, to troll me for not joining their clan.

Around summer 2012
Later on that year, Guest14502 came to me and privately apologized for the mute and bans. However, it was private, therefore the stigma of a troll still stayed in AtWar. Around the same time a new mod was promoted called VRIL. He made it his goal to mistreat and abuse me. It was easy for him to get away with it because I had a "trouble-maker record" on my profile. There are many wrongdoings that VRIL had done. Here are few that I will mention. In one example, VRIL muted me on all chats for more than a month because his clan member clovek30 (kona-chan) who was fan of anime threatened to murder me after I said "Anime is hentai." Clovek didn't get punished, not even warned for what he said, and VRIL justified it by saying it is "to prevent you from responding to him.". In another example, he kicked and then banned me for 3 days during a duel we were playing, and I had a winning advantage. A lot of players were there to witness it, luckily for me Safari saw this so he unbanned me a day later, but nothing could have been done in regards to the duel.


Autumn 2012 until summer 2013
Fast forward a few months later around June 2013. I called VRIL "noob" in private chat and he decided to permanently ban me. I assume he wasn't happy with the way the community was treating him for the last few months and he released his frustration on me, while other players were spamming global, insulting his mother and more, and got away with it. Most of the mods were on my side and agreed VRIL was excessive with the way he handled me. VRIL then made a threat that said he will quit AtWar if I'm unbanned, so Amok stepped in and sided with VRIL. The mods decided to keep me banned, but then I was offered a deal by the mods that I'll be banned for 1 year and all my "history of bad player" won't be taken into account in any future case regarding me. I agreed to this deal.

VRIL banned any alt I had at that time with this reason "reason: hdrakon" to keep it marked as my alts, therefore I stayed on low profile and played without causing problems but once he discoverd it was me he would ban it. I managed to stay out of rader for a while when I played with my alt Vermeer around August. I joined with it to my main clan at the time Victorious Secret without telling others besides Safari my true identity. Later on this month I was recommended to be player of the month for August because of my helpfulness to the community in the forum and in game chat. Then VRIL started a map competition, Safari came to me and asked me if I'm going to participate in this competition, I told him I can't because I didn't buy the Map and Scenarios pack feature for my account so Safari offered me to use his acccount I hesitated at first and warned him that he may be punished for it, but he said it's ok so few days after I received the password to his account I signed-in with it. I barely used it because I had something happening in this week, but when I had time I told clovis I could mute him with an alt I named Satan-Safari which was possible because of a bug, he asked me to do so and he apparently screen-shoted it and shared it with Desu and reported me to Pulse. When Pulse IP checked Satan Safari he figured out it shared similar IP to Veemeer and Safari, and he banned Vermeer for 999 days and accused me of hacking a mod account. I never told the true story so this was known as hacking into a mod account, something that never happened the way it was told to the public. 6 months later on March first 2014 my main account was unbanned from VRIL's ban and VRIL quit AtWar because of it. After this episode I wasn't banned or muted again for 2 years.


Summer 2015
Fast forward to 2 years later. The bad stigma I had stuck around with me, and gave the new players the wrong impression about me. People who didn't know me hated me because of it. And people who didn't like me because of where I'm from took advantage of this and joined in. But I didn't mind. I thought if I keep on a low profile people will eventually leave me alone. It didn't work, it only backfired because people started to think it might be true, since I didn't defend myself against the haters. The haters became more and more toxic towards me with their hatred, and new players who didn't even know me joined the hate group spreading lies and hate about me. I had enough and began to reply to these people who shit-posted in forum or shit-talked about me in game since the mods weren't doing anything to them.
In around may 2015, my account profile settings were being altered and I was asking mods to check my account's IP, I legitimately thought someone might have hacked me. Then a former mod told me he is the one who did it. He said he still had the power to edit players' profiles even though he wasn't a mod. I doubted him and he said go check sificvoid's password I changed it to ----- I was skeptical but I tried it anyway and to my surprise it worked. I immediately wrote a pm to Ivan and changed its password because the new password was shown to other mods and any mods could've signed-in with it to abuse with it. I then logged off from it and never signed-in with it again. At that time, Ivan was away for a week from the date of my message and when he saw my message, he changed it and thanked me.

3 months later, e Mare was promoted to mod and he was abusing me, so I decided to quit AtWar because I didn't want to go through another similar experience like I had with VRIL, and deleted my account. Apparently he went on sificvoid's account and undeleted my account, changed its name, and used it as his own. If I wasn't informed on another platform that my account was restored, I would have never known. I came back and claimed my account back and provided evidence to the admins that e Mare did it. A few months later he was removed from mod. And this is when I started to receive my first ever forum mutes for responding to hatred with hatred, while the ones who started it and insulted me weren't punished for it. I grew tired of this and became a little aggressive.

Jaunary 2016
Few days after e Mare was demoted, clovis1122 told me he had something important to talk about and asked me to come online. I did and we started to talk. He asked me to tell him how I can post in other clans' forums without being there. I told him I won't tell him how bugs work, because I didn't want to spread the knowledge of bugs in the community, and that I've already reported it to Ivan 3 years before that.
He then basically demanded I tell him how I use the bug to view the mod forum (something that isn't possible) or else he will post a shaming thread about me and get me banned. I explained to him that this bug doesn't do such a thing, and he repeated the same threat. He wasn't convinced and said he rather see me banned than see me being around without telling him how this bug works.
I had nothing to say anymore and jusy logged off. He went ahead and made the shaming thread about me, accusing me of using a bug to view mod forum. When I responded, he asked the mods to move it to mod forum to prevent me from defending myself.

I had a bad relationship with Laochra because I had the wrong impression of him as a bully. He used to be very harsh with several people who were my friends and especially with clovis who was a very close friend of mine at that time, and I believed what I was told about Laochra, so I kind of disliked him at that time and he grew to dislike me too.

Laochra joined in, and straight away supported clovis1122's unfounded accusations and sent me a threatening message that I must tell him how this bug works or else I'll be banned. Meanwhile, clovis was spamming all chats to ban me and harassed and insulted me nonstop, begging mods to ban me. And not a single mod told him to stop. I decided to defend myself and responded to him occasionally with insults for trying to get me banned.


April 2016
The constant harassment and never-ending begging to ban me on forum and in game's chat bore fruit, and I was banned out of the blue by Columna Durruti without any prior message or alert or legitimate reasoning to this ban. All Columna Durruti wrote as his reason was, "You lost your last friend, GG."

It was later proven to be a false accusation.

June 2016
2 months passed and I didn't come close to AtWar again, but then Dr. Trollface contacted me on Skype and asked me to come back because I was banned wrongfully, and so I did. I came back to AtWar. But 2 days later, I was muted by Meester on global for a week or a month. I don't exactly remember because I used it by mistake. I approached Meester in private chat and provided him screenshots to prove it was an unintended mistake. He told me I just came back from a long ban so I'm not a good situation then he proceeded to put me on ignore. I was furious he ignored me, and decided to use report command to expose the truth I know about him. Basically I said I know he's not (from the country he said and everybody thought he was from), and that he lies about being a brain surgeon at the age of 24. The only mods who were present in this time were Sun Tzu and Heat Check. Few minute later Meester "permanently banned" me. Not only that but also deleted couple of useful posts I made that same day where I explained about a bug and helped people who asked questions. And in the mod forum he told a different story.
He said I spammed global for 3 days in a row with anti-Semitic messages. But wait. Firstly, I'm Jewish, why would I insult or go against myself? And second I was unbanned for 2 days how I could spam global chat for 3 days as he claimed in the mod forum? Plus there is no evidence of what he claims I said in the chat logs, but this is what he claimed I did to get banned.

Autumn 2016
During this time, I reported to Desu im his IRC channel about Trystane who was using Safari's mod account. He misused it to it steal old beta trooper accounts and simply abusing players in the game for fun. Desu replied to me with "I'm inactive, I won't do anything about it, talk with other mods." The player was left alone for a very long time because no other mod listened to me and sun tzu ignored my reports.

Winter 2016
6 months later at this time Crow talked with Sun Tzu without my knowledge. Sun Tzu agreed I can be unbanned on the condition that I can't access any other chat besides clan chat and clan forum, since there's no separation from clan forum to public forum, and I wasn't allowed to use public forum in this agreemen so the forum ban remained untouched. They agreed on these condition and I was unbanned. After one day Meester came online and banned me again for indefinite time for one reason - hatred. I didn't break the agreement that was reached with the moderators and Sun, I stuck to this deal and only communicated within the clan but I still got banned.


End of February 2017
A month or two later I was unbanned again but I wasn't allowed to post or use public chats beside game, private and clan channels. I played for 30 days without attracting the mods' attention, however the hate against me never ceased in the forum especially from Laochra, clovis and other new haters that have joined the hate train because it's always easy and fun to join a group of people to hate on someone. One I came online to play a game, and went to the clan war game that was taking place. It was Illyria against a clan who I forgot. I noticed Desu signed-in again after 40 days of inactivity, and he was chatting with waffel and joking around with us. I asked Illyria for a cw and I set it up after they finished. I didn't know I had Desu on my ban list, I forgot about it completely. We played our game but Desu couldn't spectate. I finished the game and saw Desu in the clan war room. I went on to check my ban list, and saw he's there. I sent him a private message and said I just realized he's on my ban list, and told him I will remove him from it so he can spectate if he wants. He replied he could have unbanned himself from my game, but instead he will ban me from AtWar. He said I shouldn't have been unbanned in the first place, and told me to ask a mod to talk in my name, and after that he banned me.
When the community became outraged and interested and asked the mods why I was banned, they were silenced and were told I'm not interested to share my stories with them, which is a big lie. The community accepted it and remained silent for over 3 months.

June 2017
After I was banned for over 3 months, I contacted a brianwl to unban me. He referred me to Sun Tzu, who unbanned me, but kept me banned from forum and muted me on most chat channels beside private and clan. The reasoning was "to prevent hdrakon from insulting or harassing anyone." However, a few hours later Google Chrome muted me on all chats. Then a few hours later, Eagle unmuted me on game, private and clan chat. But then again Google Chrome muted me on all chats. It kept going on like this with other mods unmuting, until Sun Tzu unmuted me from game, private and clan chat and made a deal that if I behave for a while they will reconsider my mutes and told me to contact him if I was muted again from all chat channels.
Scris de ROYAL, 08.06.2017 at 06:30

The purpose of these posts is to get my story out there. The purpose is not to call out moderators on their actions, but an appeal to the mods and admin to speak the truth. This post is also meant to clear up all the rumors surrounding me... I'm not a bad guy. I challenge any of the mods to post their true thoughts on this matter. This is also for fair and equal justice among moderators, and to not ruling out with a heavy hand among those they find undesirable for whatever reason. I have been subjected to harsh and unfair treatment from moderators, and all the community is looking for is accountability with moderators.



Thanks for your time,
Hdrakon
11.06.2017 - 11:03
Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 10:12

Idk people keep quoting me, that wasn't even me taking shots at him and he knows that. Idk how other people read these things but they're getting the wrong idea that is for sure

they quote you because you keep posting and quoting others... maybe we do get the wrong idea about your posts but, they sure seem a bit dispensable
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11.06.2017 - 11:12
Scris de Columna Durruti, 11.06.2017 at 10:53

Scris de RaulPB, 11.06.2017 at 09:50

Scris de Columna Durruti, 11.06.2017 at 09:35

Must be the same place in hell you are going to. Hypocrite.

LOL gotcha!! Although, to be fair, that's from 2012, much has changed since then haha

People change; and they have the right to change, hopefully to better.


... sometimes, I wonder if the people can really change, or they just start to reveal what they truly are.
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11.06.2017 - 11:13
Scris de RaulPB, 11.06.2017 at 11:03

Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 10:12

Idk people keep quoting me, that wasn't even me taking shots at him and he knows that. Idk how other people read these things but they're getting the wrong idea that is for sure

they quote you because you keep posting and quoting others... maybe we do get the wrong idea about your posts but, they sure seem a bit dispensable

Well like I said I never really intended anything to be offensive and I even consider myself still neutral in the whole hdrakon drama but people just kind of nit picked at certain details in my posts to turn them into insults. Makes you wonder how things would have turned out if hdrakon wasnt muted from the get go.
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11.06.2017 - 11:16
Scris de clovis1122, 11.06.2017 at 11:12

... sometimes, I wonder if the people can really change, or they just start to reveal what they truly are.

People do change, they build upon certain experiences and the overall outcome is much different to the starting. It doesn't look like hdrakon plans to lessen any drama with this coming but maybe that was only influenced by the decisions of the moderators as of recent
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11.06.2017 - 11:17
Scris de Columna Durruti, 11.06.2017 at 10:53

People change; and they have the right to change, hopefully to better.
But they shouldn't throw stones when they live in a glass-house.

nice metaphor. But if they have changed, that glass-house stopped being glass too. In other words, if they change, they deserve a fresh new start and should not be judged by their long forgotten past. Ofc, this is just my personal opinion I guess.
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11.06.2017 - 11:21
Scris de clovis1122, 11.06.2017 at 11:12

... sometimes, I wonder if the people can really change, or they just start to reveal what they truly are.

I personally have changed. And I bet even you have changed, as slightly as it might be, since the day you joined this game.
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11.06.2017 - 11:28
Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 11:13

Well like I said I never really intended anything to be offensive and I even consider myself still neutral in the whole hdrakon drama but people just kind of nit picked at certain details in my posts to turn them into insults. Makes you wonder how things would have turned out if hdrakon wasnt muted from the get go.

Haven't you ever nitpicked? You talk as if you were a stranger to aw forums XD
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11.06.2017 - 11:43
Scris de RaulPB, 11.06.2017 at 11:28

Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 11:13

Well like I said I never really intended anything to be offensive and I even consider myself still neutral in the whole hdrakon drama but people just kind of nit picked at certain details in my posts to turn them into insults. Makes you wonder how things would have turned out if hdrakon wasnt muted from the get go.

Haven't you ever nitpicked? You talk as if you were a stranger to aw forums XD

well yeah probably xD
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11.06.2017 - 12:09
Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 11:43

well yeah probably xD

So why are you calling down on Fappy for doing something you've probably done more than once and twice? Come on man, you should know better than that, nitpicking does not inherently involve hatred or flaming you, it simply tries to explain or correct.

Just shake hands and don't take it personally
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11.06.2017 - 12:12
Scris de RaulPB, 11.06.2017 at 12:09

Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 11:43

well yeah probably xD

So why are you calling down on Fappy for doing something you've probably done more than once and twice? Come on man, you should know better than that, nitpicking does not inherently involve hatred or flaming you, it simply tries to explain or correct.

Just shake hands and don't take it personally

im not really blaming him for that, he came in once everyone else had pretty much done it. But he does hold personal quarrels against me. he is just too ignorant to admit it but he has some obsessive grudge kind of like what you imagine i have with heat check xD
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11.06.2017 - 12:16
Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 12:12

im not really blaming him for that, he came in once everyone else had pretty much done it. But he does hold personal quarrels against me. he is just too ignorant to admit it but he has some obsessive grudge kind of like what you imagine i have with heat check xD

He just didn't nitpick you cause of personal quarrels but because he saw some things that could need corrections, that's all and mistakes is something you might also need to admit. But come on, let's not fill forums with unneeded bad vibrations! Hug each other!
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11.06.2017 - 12:18
Scris de RaulPB, 11.06.2017 at 12:16

Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 12:12

im not really blaming him for that, he came in once everyone else had pretty much done it. But he does hold personal quarrels against me. he is just too ignorant to admit it but he has some obsessive grudge kind of like what you imagine i have with heat check xD

He just didn't nitpick you cause of personal quarrels but because he saw some things that could need corrections, that's all and mistakes is something you might also need to admit. But come on, let's not fill forums with unneeded bad vibrations! Hug each other!

nah i dont blame him for the nitpicking, he showed up when it was already done but defiantly brought some personal issues of his own into this.
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11.06.2017 - 12:21
Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 12:18

nah i dont blame him for the nitpicking, he showed up when it was already done but defiantly brought some personal issues of his own into this.

Hug, hug, hug, hug, hug!!
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11.06.2017 - 12:42
Scris de RaulPB, 11.06.2017 at 12:21

Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 12:18

nah i dont blame him for the nitpicking, he showed up when it was already done but defiantly brought some personal issues of his own into this.

Hug, hug, hug, hug, hug!!

chug, chug, chug,chug, chug!! xD
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11.06.2017 - 12:50
Scris de Columna Durruti, 11.06.2017 at 09:35

Scris de Tundy, 11.06.2017 at 06:12

You are a spineless mosquito, selling out your old chap just because you desire to be a mod so badly.
There is a special place in hell for people like you.


Scris de Tundy, 16.08.2012 at 17:42

Just Ban him each time he gets to rank 4... he will ragequit afterwind at some point, or ban his proxys. (you know, he has to run out of proxys)


Must be the same place in hell you are going to. Hypocrite.


That quote is from a post in the mod forum.
You stalker.
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11.06.2017 - 13:52
Scris de Tundy, 11.06.2017 at 12:50

Scris de Columna Durruti, 11.06.2017 at 09:35

Scris de Tundy, 11.06.2017 at 06:12

You are a spineless mosquito, selling out your old chap just because you desire to be a mod so badly.
There is a special place in hell for people like you.


Scris de Tundy, 16.08.2012 at 17:42

Just Ban him each time he gets to rank 4... he will ragequit afterwind at some point, or ban his proxys. (you know, he has to run out of proxys)


Must be the same place in hell you are going to. Hypocrite.


That quote is from a post in the mod forum.
You stalker.


hdrakon hater confirmed, burn him.
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11.06.2017 - 15:03
Nice multiple fronts thread with plot twists and drama. Hdrakon hated and supported, gc on the dart board, clovis snitching, fappino and trystane trying to steal the show and columna and tunder making humorous and well placed snarky remarks, both deserving upvotes, but both not getting any because we dont want to seem like we support one over the other.

Well if hdrakon coming back is what it takes to make this half-dead, stale, deserted game, feel alive again, then keep him if only for this reason alone!
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11.06.2017 - 15:08
Scris de BalkanBeast, 11.06.2017 at 14:03

Because of the abusive nature of moderators, that attitude trickles down into all aspects of the game.
The cw players think they are god's greatest gift to atwar, yet they don't let new players in. They do not spread talent out among many clans. I find it funny that you call it "competitive." The same 40 guys on the same 5 clans isn't competitive. I also find it funny AtWar is the only online game in existence that will give out account bans for shit talk...even racist shit talk.

Like I have already said, 99% of situations when a player is spouting racism or shit talk and you don't like it, mute them and move on. That is across all gaming platforms.
Passion can take a hold of people and make them say stuff they don't mean. Mods are even guilty of it.

My posts in forums aren't to troll, but to bring change to the game, for example, Ivan and Amok fixing the problems, or actually making the cw scene competitive. You cw people go on
talking about the cw scene is dying and it is irritating, when it is clear as to the reasons why it is dying. It is all your fault.


Most of the modteam is fine, its just people like emare, safari and now google chrome that are causing problems. Theres also a communication issue since our new admin is interfering and unbanning players that shouldnt be unbanned.

The cw players let people in all the time. You seem to be quite cancerous, so it would not surprise me to discover that no clan wanted you. That and the fact that you play 0-9 rank limit duels. That to me suggests a guy has no interest in improving.

You think is the only game in existence that bans shittalk and racist shittalk? From my own experience i can point out the evony and voobly communities. I am sure there are many others. Atwar is actually quite lenient in what you can get away with especially on the forums. So yea thats nonsense.

Yea calling people fags really helps. Heres an ss of a few of your posts. Pretty cancerous useless stuff.



The competitive community cant do shit without admin help. Who wants to stick around and put in the effort for a game full of bugs. The servers dc all the time and theres been no update in almost 2 years. We get a small trickle of new players but this wont change until we have admins.
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11.06.2017 - 15:23
And the whole time gc is silent, editing/removing/moving messages he doesn't like and threatening people. It's plain and simple. Calm the fuck down gc, you will not survive here like this, the hate will eat your soul untill one day you relise every single person hates your guts, and it's your fault! Then you'll either forcefully be removed from moderator because you went to far, or you'll quietly disappear. It's not to late to take a diferent path though, but it's all up to you.
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11.06.2017 - 16:12
Scris de Khal.eesi, 11.06.2017 at 15:03

fappino and trystane trying to steal the show



Not really, just pinpointed hypocrisy and threw more wood to the fire, sorry Tristy


Scris de Khal.eesi, 11.06.2017 at 15:03

columna and tunder making humorous and well placed snarky remarks, both deserving upvotes, but both not getting any because we dont want to seem like we support one over the other.


This nigga knows some shit
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11.06.2017 - 17:41
What's more ironic? Hdrakon posting about himself from an alt or that he still can't get the salty out of his mouth?
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11.06.2017 - 18:07
Scris de Guest, 11.06.2017 at 04:19

Scris de 1GodofWar1, 10.06.2017 at 00:25

Scris de ROYAL, 08.06.2017 at 03:59

Hey everyone,


Thanks for your time,
Hdrakon

I just really dont understand why you are so fixated on thjs game buddy just move on with life
i mean...
With all the heartache it gave you whether justified or wrong its not wort it im sure you have alot to live for
I feel for you but i must tell you
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
Cheers
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This is what I'm going to do. I asked sun to remove me from supporter because I give up.
I put a lot of time in this game for many years and I still liked this game. But I change my mind and I'm going to give up on it because few mods and haters are still ruining my experience here. And even after revealing what happened majority of the community is still silent... I thank all those who tried to help me though I'm grateful

And as I said many times in this thread I made this thread to share what really happened with these bans and other false accusations I was been accused of for years which part of the community took as a fact that happened when it didn't.
And I never done this kind of thread before so your quote of insanity bs doesn't fit here tbh.
I think the community needs to know what's really going on and perhaps this may help stop the mistreatment and abuse this community is receiving from the mods and balance it for all. Hopefully for the betterment of this game and community.

I was talking about keeping on comming back i totaly understand you were abused and feel for you but you could have also flown under the radar like i and many other players did
I never got banned or muted or anything
And there were a couple of mods over the years that disliked me.
Its all about the way you act to draw that fire to you and i also think you enjoyed the drama involved
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11.06.2017 - 19:38
Scris de BalkanBeast, 11.06.2017 at 16:04

The funny part is, is that is the worst of it. Nice job digging that up, good detective work. I've never heard of either of those games you mentioned. You are just showing
the usual mod aggressiveness/trolling type behavior.

And I'm not talking about mutes.

I am talking about being banned from logging into a gaming account to play said game because of some stupid rule infraction. Why would anyone pay money to
play a game and invest more into said game if they were being banned from logging into their paid for account because the stupid reasons you guys come up with.
The whole point of hdrakon's story is to show the history of corruption and trolling behavior among mods that continues to this day. You could be banned from your
account for any stupid reason, then have no recourse, so why would anyone invest any money at all into that kind of corrupt system. At the end of the day, that
means less money for Ivan and Amok.


you feel im being aggressive? Wasnt much of a digging job m8, youve 100 posts and most of them are trash. Like this one. This game is only a 1 time installment of 40 euro. It's not much of an investment. And sorry to break it to you sunshine but all games have a tos that could allow them to terminate your account. If that thought terrifies you then you might want to seek other forms of entertainment.

Your buddy hdrakon in this thread alone admitted to ban evasion,spamming/harassment and logging and using mod accounts. At this stage there probably isnt a rule he hasnt broken. If you dont want to get banned, don't be a fucktard.
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11.06.2017 - 20:08
Scris de BalkanBeast, 11.06.2017 at 19:55

a) And you sound like some entitled first world prick.
b) Did you know 40$ is a week's salary to some people that play this game. And when they see this tom-foolery, it will make them think twice of buying premium every again.

Did you just:
a) insult Laochra for not being in poverty? (by implying that he can afford premium) - that's some over the top social justice warrior stuff. "oh no my bad, I shouldn't be able to afford $40 because others in the world can't"
b) if someone's salary is $40 a week and they have to provide for themselves/others then I would highly recommend getting their priorities straight. If this was the case (which I doubt it is for anyone on atWar), wouldn't they rather get more shifts/hours/overtime at work instead of playing a game (yes atWar is infact just a game).

I was really just sitting back and watching this drama unfold but I can't watch stuff like this and sit back, some may say it's like talking to a brick wall.
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11.06.2017 - 20:39
Scris de BalkanBeast, 11.06.2017 at 19:55

Apparently sarcasm isn't in Laochra's vocabulary.
Did you know not everybody buys a lifetime membership, but buys a three month or one month membership every now and then? And you sound like some entitled first world prick. Did you know 40$ is a week's salary to some people that play this game. And when they see this tom-foolery, it will make them think twice of buying premium every again. Further, did you know that you can buy protocoins to promote forum topics or double your SP? Why would anyone care to double their SP when a mod more than likely will accuse them of SP farming and strip them of their SP, without any recourse. I've seen it happen. Or why would a person promote a forum topic, when more than likely, a mod will move their topic to the mod forums and strip them of their promotion and therefore protocoins.

Or how about my case, where I was banned and locked out of my account for 24 hours. It was an honest mistake and the mods are quick to ban and mute. I made a "submarine battle" game to work on the submarine medal. I thought, and still think, it is like working towards achievements in an Xbox One game. I was labeled an SP farmer and banned from playing the game for 24 hours. Wow. Did you know that up until a few months ago, it was against the rules to "play Atwar for the sole purpose of gaining SP." LOL. What a joke. The whole point of the game is to earn SP, yet it was against the rules. That's a joke, kind of like Laochra.


Sarcasm is in my vocabulary. As is the word paranoia. I am not touching that salary rant. You missed the point completely.

This isn't a dictatorship. There is accountability. Some mod can't just randomly decide to ban you. If they do you can appeal to the other mods. Logic and reason can work wonders. As can politeness. Idk what happened with your account but these are obviously not skills you possess and i have little doubt you probably deserved what you got. The way you talk youd swear players were being mass banned. "More than likely" you say? Try highly unlikely. High ranks are very rarely banned. Especially premium accounts. You really need to fuckup for that to happen. Look at hdrakon, all those rulebreaks and hes still here.

Also i should point out that there's no such rule that prohibits players from playing atwar for the sole purpose of gaining xp. I'm not sure if you are confused or you just poorly paraphrased it.
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11.06.2017 - 20:48
Scris de Tundy, 11.06.2017 at 12:50

Scris de Columna Durruti, 11.06.2017 at 09:35

Scris de Tundy, 11.06.2017 at 06:12

You are a spineless mosquito, selling out your old chap just because you desire to be a mod so badly.
There is a special place in hell for people like you.


Scris de Tundy, 16.08.2012 at 17:42

Just Ban him each time he gets to rank 4... he will ragequit afterwind at some point, or ban his proxys. (you know, he has to run out of proxys)


Must be the same place in hell you are going to. Hypocrite.


That quote is from a post in the mod forum.
You stalker.

Not stalker, just a guy with some memory.
Selective, I must admit.
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11.06.2017 - 21:00
 Nero
Free Hdrakon
He a good boy
He dindu nuffin
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11.06.2017 - 21:42
Scris de NorthernPeickJr, 11.06.2017 at 21:09

My point is that there isn't accountability. Any mod can ban and mute any player without consulting another mod. It is hard to be polite and ask for an explanation, when I was banned from my account and couldn't eve login to state my case, all without warning. How do I "appeal to the other mods" when I can't even get into my account. Even when I logged into an alternate account, I couldn't reach another mod. Most mods could care less about a player's problems. So I was SOL. All for "sp farming." Which was making a "Submarine Battle" game. After I got back into my account a day later after Meester banned me, I pm'd Sun Tzu and he agreed that it was harsh punishment and I didn't deserve it. But nothing he could do about it anymore. O well, move on. But I had a game planned the next day with a friend, and of course that was ruined. But "o well" they say. Why would I buy more protocoins to double my SP, when experiences like that put a sour taste in my mouth?

Like I said before, luckily AtWar has brianwl. He is the most sensible mod in existence. If brianwl goes inactive, we know the game is truly doomed.

Now to your claim about the rules.

See this thread: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=31911&topicsearch=&page=1

The rules used to state:

"1.3 The term "FARMING" is used to describe the process of playing a game with the sole purpose of gaining SP or ELO. This is considered cheating and exploitative and is not allowed.
Example: Joining a game with 2 accounts or more accounts, playing a coalition war with an account on both teams, creating a map with the sole purpose of earning ELO or SP, creating a duel in which you control both accounts, and more."

Until I started bitching about how ridiculous that statement is in the forums after I got banned for "SP farming." Then Ivan changed the rules. They now state:


1.3 The term "FARMING" is used to describe the process of playing a game which uses exploits to gain SP or ELO. This may include using more than 1 account to win games or using custom maps made specific for ELO/SP gaining. Moderators ultimately will take into consideration with what they believe is just and unjust.

Example: Joining a game with 2 accounts or more accounts, playing a coalition war with an account on both teams, creating a map with the sole purpose of earning ELO or SP, creating a duel in which you control both accounts, and more.



My previous post:
"The rules state that "1.3 The term "FARMING" is used to describe the process of playing a game with the sole purpose of gaining SP or ELO. This is considered cheating and exploitative and is not allowed...Example...creating a map with the sole purpose of earning ELO or SP."

I find this rule very funny. Isn't the whole purpose of the game to earn SP to buy more upgrades? The only way to get above rank 10 is to farm SP at one point or another, let us be honest here. That is why I find it hilarious I was locked out of my account that I paid good money for for days because I created a "submarine game" to work toward the submarine medal. I was declared a SP farmer, and with no warning locked out of my account for days.

I find it hilarious because the rules state that playing the game to earn SP is against the rules, while that is the whole purpose of the game!! LoL It doesn't make any sense.

Which brings me back to Vict0ry. He farms SP all day, every day of his life. He plays all the alternate maps which are just SP farms, like the map "Ancient Americas" which he is farming while I type this message.

My point being the only way to reach 1,000,000 SP points is to farm SP at one point or another, after all, earning SP to buy upgrades is the whole point of the game!

Forget about the skull on the emblem. My opinion is that, all ranks 11 and up should have the emblem I have above, because it is clear to me, with the amount of time it takes to earn SP, that all of those players should be considered "farmers" under the rules and banned for a week as well."

Your 100% wrong your a farmer, that map was 100% sp farming. Shame on you for using hdrakons platform to push your own bullshit. No farming isn't the point of the game, it ruins accomplishment and devalues the game entirely. You created that map with the purpose of farming medals.
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11.06.2017 - 22:04
Scris de BalkanBeast, 11.06.2017 at 21:46

Gaining SP is the point of the game is it not? Do you deny that Hellykin? Never saw anything in the rules about "farming medals." Still don't.

It's not at all the point, the gameplay and the people you meet are the point. The sp system should be thrown out the window.
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12.06.2017 - 01:07
I dont think the purpose of the game is to gain sp northern. the purpose of the game is to outsmart your opponent and win your games + have fun.
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