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Postat de Helly, 19.02.2017 - 16:52
Please do not lock this, this is off topic and this is our way of life here, ivan in the past has said that offtopic is a place where moderation should only take place under acts of harassment. This is an interesting topic I wish for people to discuss so I may learn more about the peers I have here.

Sondaj

What religion do you practice?

Christianity
19
Islam
6
Judaism
1
African religions
4
Hinduism
2
Buddhism
0
Confucianism
0
Shinto
1
Native religion globally
1

Total voturi: 30
21.02.2017 - 00:50
Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.02.2017 at 12:01

Jesus is God. Just like humans have 3 dimensions(height, width and depth), so does God: Jesus-Father-Holy Spirit.

I don't see how anyone can be confused over such an easy subject.

I'm atheist so I am not too adept with Christianity. It was my understanding that Jesus was the son of God so the two are two separate beings. Are you saying that Jesus and God are now one being/unit? I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm just asking because I'm curious and want clarification
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21.02.2017 - 06:14
Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 00:12

1. Muh Malaysia

2. We have more kids, better sperm, more strong

3. You worship jesus noobs, muslims better







1. Malaysia might be moderate compared to hellholes like Pakistan and Afghanistan, a tad more tolerate than Egypt and Iran, but it is a shithole, still. Dont get me wrong i applaud any Muslim country that moves toward progress, modernity and secular democracy, but Malaysia is still not there.


26% of Malaysians support suicide bombings

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

39% of Muslims in Malaysia say suicide bombings "justified" in defense of Islam

http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

A majority of Muslims in 10 countries including Malaysia favor basing laws on the Quran

http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/04/27/the-divide-over-islam-and-national-laws-in-the-muslim-world/

Stoning women for adultery is favored by ~50% in moderate Malaysia

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf


Violations of humans rights are rampart. Malaysia is not a safe nor stable country http://report.hdr.undp.org/ I still remember the case in the news of that cute little teenage blogger who was charged for critisizing Islam in his blogs. Yes in Pakistan he would be dead, but still, thats not freedom.

Lastly since you compared with Croatia, Malaysia ranks 62 in HDI (human development index) while Croatia ranks 47, so erm.. Greece ranks 29 so dont even bother trying


2. Since when advocating for overpopulation is considered normal? Lol. What alternate reality is this. India admits that overpopulation is its n1 problem and China had 1 child law for very long.

Theres this thing called family planning. Average schooling for Malaysians is only 10 years, in other muslim countries so much lower, so i dont expect you to know about this. But then its better to listen to more educated Europeans instead of insulting them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_planning


There is a negative correlation between birth rates and economic development. Meaning the more "muh strong sperm" you have, the poorer you are, not strong as you suggest.



Doesnt stop there, its a cycle. The more econimcally developed you are the higher your level of education aswell.




And here is the direct relation between birth rates and literacy just in case



There are other relations we can examine like CRIME, POLLUTION, MORTALITY RATE, they all share a negative correlation with high birth rates, im bored to post you can research on your own.

Conclusion. Evidence and facts reveal it is very harmfull to have high birth rates. Africans and Muslims are doing a great job trying to solve the problem by killing each other. The rest should do the same i believe.



3. A muslim judging Christ. Kek.

Christians in the 21st century do not kill because Christ was offended, yet Muslims do when Muhhamad is. So the joke is on you. Muslims worship a human being as if he was god, muslims are willing to take away lives and throw their own away just to take revenge against their prophet insulters.

Whats more absurd is the actual life of Muhhamad. If you actually ever read about it, which i doubt. Most of the muslims are either uneducated, or willfully ignorant, carefully ignoring half of the Quran and Hadith when trying to justify their faith and beliefs. Generalizing much Khal? Hell yes i am, if the data support my assertion, why not?

You are worshiping a psychopath with mental problems, a pedophile who took 9 year old Aisha when he was 55, massacred and exterminated Jews, dealt in slave trade, assassinated his political opposition, raided,looted and murdered innocent merchant caravans, tortured prisoners of war and used his fake "visions" as justifications to establish concepts like jihad, inferiority of non-muslims and pedophilic sex slave abuse.

Now i am not religious, but trust me if i had to choose between a Christian hippie tree hugger, a Buddhist fat pothead, a Hindu tranny with 10 hands or a Muslim psychopathic raping mass murderer, who do you think i would pick?
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21.02.2017 - 06:32
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Scris de Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 06:14

Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 00:12

1. Muh Malaysia

2. We have more kids, better sperm, more strong

3. You worship jesus noobs, muslims better







1. Malaysia might be moderate compared to hellholes like Pakistan and Afghanistan, a tad more tolerate than Egypt and Iran, but it is a shithole, still. Dont get me wrong i applaud any Muslim country that moves toward progress, modernity and secular democracy, but Malaysia is still not there.


26% of Malaysians support suicide bombings

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

39% of Muslims in Malaysia say suicide bombings "justified" in defense of Islam

http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

A majority of Muslims in 10 countries including Malaysia favor basing laws on the Quran

http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/04/27/the-divide-over-islam-and-national-laws-in-the-muslim-world/

Stoning women for adultery is favored by ~50% in moderate Malaysia

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf


Violations of humans rights are rampart. Malaysia is not a safe nor stable country http://report.hdr.undp.org/ I still remember the case in the news of that cute little teenage blogger who was charged for critisizing Islam in his blogs. Yes in Pakistan he would be dead, but still, thats not freedom.

Lastly since you compared with Croatia, Malaysia ranks 62 in HDI (human development index) while Croatia ranks 47, so erm.. Greece ranks 29 so dont even bother trying


2. Since when advocating for overpopulation is considered normal? Lol. What alternate reality is this. India admits that overpopulation is its n1 problem and China had 1 child law for very long.

Theres this thing called family planning. Average schooling for Malaysians is only 10 years, in other muslim countries so much lower, so i dont expect you to know about this. But then its better to listen to more educated Europeans instead of insulting them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_planning


There is a negative correlation between birth rates and economic development. Meaning the more "muh strong sperm" you have, the poorer you are, not strong as you suggest.



Doesnt stop there, its a cycle. The more econimcally developed you are the higher your level of education aswell.




And here is the direct relation between birth rates and literacy just in case



There are other relations we can examine like CRIME, POLLUTION, MORTALITY RATE, they all share a negative correlation with high birth rates, im bored to post you can research on your own.

Conclusion. Evidence and facts reveal it is very harmfull to have high birth rates. Africans and Muslims are doing a great job trying to solve the problem by killing each other. The rest should do the same i believe.



3. A muslim judging Christ. Kek.

Christians in the 21st century do not kill because Christ was offended, yet Muslims do when Muhhamad is. So the joke is on you. Muslims worship a human being as if he was god, muslims are willing to take away lives and throw their own away just to take revenge against their prophet insulters.

Whats more absurd is the actual life of Muhhamad. If you actually ever read about it, which i doubt. Most of the muslims are either uneducated, or willfully ignorant, carefully ignoring half of the Quran and Hadith when trying to justify their faith and beliefs.

You are worshiping a psychopath with mental problems, a pedophile who took 9 year old Aisha when he was 55, massacred and exterminated Jews, dealt in slave trade, assassinated his political opposition, raided,looted and murdered innocent merchant caravans, tortured prisoners of war and used his fake "visions" as justifications to establish concepts like jihad, inferiority of non-muslims and pedophilic sex slave abuse.

Now i am not religious, but trust me if i had to choose between a Christian hippie tree hugger, a Buddhist fat pothead, a Hindu tranny with 10 hands or a Muslim psychopathic raping mass murderer, who do you think i would pick?

Like i said. I dont even care about youe opinion on my nation laws and stuff and this is cominh from a greek that doesnt pay their debt. Country went bankcrupt. You bought submarines and it didnt even sailed. And youre sucking germany's dick..prove me wrong. Jesus isnt god..of hes god he wont be killed on earth to "reclaim planet" lol

"Pewforum" thats a west website thats anti islam

Give me a link from malaysia official website supporting suicide bombings
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21.02.2017 - 07:01
Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Like i said. I dont even care about youe opinion on my nation laws and stuff and this is cominh from a greek that doesnt pay their debt. Country went bankcrupt. You bought submarines and it didnt even sailed. And youre sucking germany's dick..prove me wrong. Jesus isnt god..of hes god he wont be killed on earth to "reclaim planet" lol


It is not very hard to grasp the difference between a simple opinion versus logical conclusions supported by facts. Thats why i provided sources for everything i said, so you cannot claim its just "my opinion".

You offered zero rebuttal to any of my points, you didnt even address one, instead made it personal about Greece. I can drop to your level though and play there as well.

Greece GDP was way higher than Malaysias before the crisis hit, despite having 1/3 of your population.

But still GDP per capita even in crisis, even when we have to take care these hundreds of thousands muslim refugees ( how much Malaysia has helped its muslim brothers and sisters? muh allah. You dont even help your own) is still higher than Malaysias.




As for the submarines, thats a corruption scandal between Greece and Germany, what point are you trying to make. I wish not one of military superiority, with your 70 tanks vs Greece's 1500, or your 2 submarines. You can explore kiddie pools with these yes

Anyway if you want to compare militaries check this

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=greece&country2=malaysia&Submit=COMPARE


And if you want to compare the countries using a wide array of factors, from economic growth, to inequality, to freedoms, to corruption, to education, pollution and etc use these.


http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2015_statistical_annex.pdf

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2016-updated-2.pdf


There is no comparison really. But i only posted these because you steered the discussion that way, im more interested in you adressing my answer to the points you yourself made in the first place.

Its good to talk shit and troll, i do it too, but if you want to make heavy statements, you better be ready to back them up or get rekt by people who know more.





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Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

"Pewforum" thats a west website thats anti islam


Lmao. Says who? Source?

The Pew Research Center is one of the least biased, most reliable polling organization.


Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Give me a link from malaysia official website supporting suicide bombings



Through my links you can get a generic idea about the governments stance through the human rights violations report and the public opinion stance on various matters, expressed by opinion polls.

Dont try to mix these, unless the point you are trying to make is that public opinion does not matter and only the government stance matter? In that case take a look at the human rights violations report by government institutions, that i offered and wreck yourself.
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21.02.2017 - 07:22
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Scris de Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 07:01

Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Like i said. I dont even care about youe opinion on my nation laws and stuff and this is cominh from a greek that doesnt pay their debt. Country went bankcrupt. You bought submarines and it didnt even sailed. And youre sucking germany's dick..prove me wrong. Jesus isnt god..of hes god he wont be killed on earth to "reclaim planet" lol


It is not very hard to grasp the difference of opinion with logical conclusions supported by facts. Thats why i provided sources for everything i said, so you cannot claim its just "my opinion".

You offered zero rebuttal to any of my points, you didnt even address one, instead made it personal about Greece. I can drop to your level though and play there aswell.

Greece GDP was way higher than Malaysias before the crisis hit, despite having 1/3 of your population.

But still GDP per capita even in crisis, even when we have to take care these hundreds of thousands muslim refugees ( how much Malaysia has helped its muslim brothers and sisters? muh allah. You dont even help your own) is still higher than Malaysias.




As for the submarines, thats a corruption scandal between Greece and Germany, what point are you trying to make. I wish not one of military superiority, with your 70 tanks vs Greece's 1500, or your 2 submarines. You can explore kiddie pools with these yes

Anyway if you want to compare militaries check this

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=greece&country2=malaysia&Submit=COMPARE


And if you want to compare the countries using a wide array of factors, from economic growth, to inequality, to freedoms, to corruption, to education, polution and etc use these.


http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2015_statistical_annex.pdf

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2016-updated-2.pdfyou yourself


There is no comparison really. But i only posted these because you steered the discussion that way, im more interested in you adressing my answer to the points you yourself made in the first place.

Its good to talk shit and troll, i do it too, but if you want to make heavy statements, you better be ready to back them up or get rekt by people who know more.





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Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

"Pewforum" thats a west website thats anti islam


Lmao. Says who? Source?





Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Give me a link from malaysia official website supporting suicide bombings



Through my links you can have a generic idea about the governments stance through the human rights violations report and the public opinion stance on various matters, expressed by opinion polls.

Dont try to mix these, unless the point you are trying to make is that public opinion does not matter and only the government stance matter? In that case take a look at the human rights violations report by government institutions, that i offered and wreck yourself.

>>Says Malaysia supports suivide bombing give source from a western website.

>>Says im getting personal when you quoted me first and talk about Malaysia and Muhammad.

If we were to war you would've been dead since your country cant buy oil for your tanks..we have 70 tanks because our country isnt suitable for many tanks noob..asians countries use guerilla warfare..having many tanks doesnt determine anything. 2 submarine sailed >> 11 submarine that didnt sailed..and youre begging to germany lol..quality>quantity.

And also like i said..your claim are false if its not originally from a malaysian website

Everybody in Malaysia hates Isis..and we've been attacked by isis before.isis are shitholes that needs to be erased because it is founded by the weatern trying to make muslim look bad.

Anyway thia isnt about countries comparison..and globalforepower is so outdated..we have attack helicopter..it isnt 100% right...you wanna claim your country to be the best? How bout you cleared debt first and get out of bankruptcy and stop begging germany. If greeks are smartasses they wouldn't have changed their currencies lol..and also we take rohingya refugees , syrian , bangladesh and many more..:)

Your gdp.per capita is high is because of your low population

Look at luxembourg lol 100k gdp per capita only 200k population
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21.02.2017 - 09:00
Scris de Guest, 20.02.2017 at 09:40



k you blame some of them on communism and the invasion of the islam in balkans and the turks...
Well how come former communist belarus has around 50% and rest atheist while same former communist catholic country Poland has close to 90% ?
How come you blame the diversity on the balkans thanks to the turks but forget that the iberia had the Almohads yet they dont have the same religious diversity?
South italy was under muslim control for some time yet they dont even have a noticeable muslim community...

And talking about the catholics and the popes wrong doings , dont even get me started on what they tried to do on the protestants...
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21.02.2017 - 09:54
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Scris de Ghostface, 21.02.2017 at 09:00

Scris de Guest, 20.02.2017 at 09:40



k you blame some of them on communism and the invasion of the islam in balkans and the turks...
Well how come former communist belarus has around 50% and rest atheist while same former communist catholic country Poland has close to 90% ?
How come you blame the diversity on the balkans thanks to the turks but forget that the iberia had the Almohads yet they dont have the same religious diversity?
South italy was under muslim control for some time yet they dont even have a noticeable muslim community...

And talking about the catholics and the popes wrong doings , dont even get me started on what they tried to do on the protestants...

You must take into account particular cases as well, idk whats the matter with belarus but there must be a regional reason for this. Habsburg Spain was the most powerful player in eu politics for like one century and even before starting with isabella and her husband(forgot his name) they didnt allow heretics, lest Muslims. When the Reform burst, the attitute of enmity was present against the spanish Protestants and when the Counterreform came it was over for them and the same in Poland. Catholic church in medieval times and modern isnt renowened for its religious tollerance, hell no. And btw, the Protestants tried an succeded in doing bad things against Catholics in various parts of Europe. Now dont get me wrong, I am not Catholic, I just felt someone had to take a stand for them while they were "wrecked" by andartes. All the best
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21.02.2017 - 11:12
Scris de Dereny, 21.02.2017 at 00:50

I'm atheist so I am not too adept with Christianity. It was my understanding that Jesus was the son of God so the two are two separate beings. Are you saying that Jesus and God are now one being/unit? I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm just asking because I'm curious and want clarification


I'll just tell you what my local priest who PhD'ed latin, greek language and history, literature told me:

Jesus was born on this planet, but only so he can look like human, made of flesh and blood. That is to show humans that it is possible to live on this planet, to have a normal job, peaceful life without problems and that you don't have to rage and hate but be whole day filled with happyness and respect.

He still called God 'father' but that's symbolism, because God also need 3 dimensions like any other object and being. God in Heaven, Jesus on Earth and Holy Spirit in all humans who follow the rules.

By following the rules, you maintain holy spirit within you, by not following the rules, spirit leaves you because he cannot coexist with sin. That's why it is worst sin to suicide because human is a god's temple and you have no right to destroy it, beside you can repent after every sin except suicide because you are not alive anymore.

God can still come and go whenever he wants, he can come as God from Heaven not taking the form of Jesus Christ, but that hurt humans because most of them do not have holy spirit inside them. Just like God told jews in the desert not to enter tent with commandments because they will die (He was there), only priests could enter that tent. But if he wants us all to see him, he will take form of Jesus, either born again by some pure woman or descending from the Heaven, doesn't matter, and we will all see him as a human and not be hurt.
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21.02.2017 - 11:30
Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 07:22

Scris de Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 07:01

Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Like i said. I dont even care about youe opinion on my nation laws and stuff and this is cominh from a greek that doesnt pay their debt. Country went bankcrupt. You bought submarines and it didnt even sailed. And youre sucking germany's dick..prove me wrong. Jesus isnt god..of hes god he wont be killed on earth to "reclaim planet" lol


It is not very hard to grasp the difference of opinion with logical conclusions supported by facts. Thats why i provided sources for everything i said, so you cannot claim its just "my opinion".

You offered zero rebuttal to any of my points, you didnt even address one, instead made it personal about Greece. I can drop to your level though and play there aswell.

Greece GDP was way higher than Malaysias before the crisis hit, despite having 1/3 of your population.

But still GDP per capita even in crisis, even when we have to take care these hundreds of thousands muslim refugees ( how much Malaysia has helped its muslim brothers and sisters? muh allah. You dont even help your own) is still higher than Malaysias.




As for the submarines, thats a corruption scandal between Greece and Germany, what point are you trying to make. I wish not one of military superiority, with your 70 tanks vs Greece's 1500, or your 2 submarines. You can explore kiddie pools with these yes

Anyway if you want to compare militaries check this

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=greece&country2=malaysia&Submit=COMPARE


And if you want to compare the countries using a wide array of factors, from economic growth, to inequality, to freedoms, to corruption, to education, polution and etc use these.


http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2015_statistical_annex.pdf

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2016-updated-2.pdfyou yourself


There is no comparison really. But i only posted these because you steered the discussion that way, im more interested in you adressing my answer to the points you yourself made in the first place.

Its good to talk shit and troll, i do it too, but if you want to make heavy statements, you better be ready to back them up or get rekt by people who know more.





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Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

"Pewforum" thats a west website thats anti islam


Lmao. Says who? Source?





Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Give me a link from malaysia official website supporting suicide bombings



Through my links you can have a generic idea about the governments stance through the human rights violations report and the public opinion stance on various matters, expressed by opinion polls.

Dont try to mix these, unless the point you are trying to make is that public opinion does not matter and only the government stance matter? In that case take a look at the human rights violations report by government institutions, that i offered and wreck yourself.

Says Malaysia supports suivide bombing give source from a western website.

Says im getting personal when you quoted me first and talk about Malaysia and Muhammad.

If we were to war you would've been dead aince your country cant buy oil for your tanks..we have 70 tanks because our country isnt suitable for many tanks noob..asians countries use guerilla warfare..having many tanka doesnt determine anything. 2 submarine sailed >> 11 submarine that didnt sailed..abd youre begging to germany lol..quality>quantity.

And also like i said..your claim are false if its not originally from a malaysian website

Everybody in Malaysia hates Isis..and we've been attacked by isis before.isis are shithooes that needs to be erased because it is founded by the weatern trying to make muslim look bad.

Anyway thia isnt abouy countries comparison..and globalforepower is so outdated..we have attack helicopter..it isnt 100% right...you wanna claim your country to be the best? How bout you cleqred debt forst and get out of bankcruptcy and stop beggong germany. If greeks are smartasses they wouldn't have changd their currencies lol..and also we take rohingya refugees , syrian , bangladesh and many more..:)

Your gdp.per capita is high is because of your low population

Look at luxembourg lol 100k gdp per capita only 200k population

okay wait.
Is really anyone still thinking Greece is a good country to live in?
Lmfao
Well Malaysia is a country in growth and they aren't extreme muslim, so where is a problem?
For the guy who defends Greece:
And please dont come with this liberal bullshit about bombing civils while Greece treats Syrian refugees as pigs lmfao.
Greece made fake stats to enter EU and Eurozone so ANY ECONOMIC stats from Greece is fake as hell.

For the Malaysian:
I'm Christian but I respect Malaysia because it isn't a shitty poor extreme muslim country. Malaysia is a regional power with a great economy,
Also after some info I discovered that Malaysia has a lot of religions. 9.3% of the population is Christian though.
So telling Malaysia is terrorist, extreme Sharia country is a bullshit.
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21.02.2017 - 11:32
Scris de Ghostface, 21.02.2017 at 09:00

Scris de Guest, 20.02.2017 at 09:40



k you blame some of them on communism and the invasion of the islam in balkans and the turks...
Well how come former communist belarus has around 50% and rest atheist while same former communist catholic country Poland has close to 90% ?
How come you blame the diversity on the balkans thanks to the turks but forget that the iberia had the Almohads yet they dont have the same religious diversity?
South italy was under muslim control for some time yet they dont even have a noticeable muslim community...

And talking about the catholics and the popes wrong doings , dont even get me started on what they tried to do on the protestants...

Orthodox and Protestants leaders weren't angels too.
One thing is the religion and other are some people using religion to commit bad things.
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21.02.2017 - 12:02
Scris de Free_Warrior, 21.02.2017 at 11:30

Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 07:22

Scris de Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 07:01

Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Like i said. I dont even care about youe opinion on my nation laws and stuff and this is cominh from a greek that doesnt pay their debt. Country went bankcrupt. You bought submarines and it didnt even sailed. And youre sucking germany's dick..prove me wrong. Jesus isnt god..of hes god he wont be killed on earth to "reclaim planet" lol


It is not very hard to grasp the difference of opinion with logical conclusions supported by facts. Thats why i provided sources for everything i said, so you cannot claim its just "my opinion".

You offered zero rebuttal to any of my points, you didnt even address one, instead made it personal about Greece. I can drop to your level though and play there aswell.

Greece GDP was way higher than Malaysias before the crisis hit, despite having 1/3 of your population.

But still GDP per capita even in crisis, even when we have to take care these hundreds of thousands muslim refugees ( how much Malaysia has helped its muslim brothers and sisters? muh allah. You dont even help your own) is still higher than Malaysias.




As for the submarines, thats a corruption scandal between Greece and Germany, what point are you trying to make. I wish not one of military superiority, with your 70 tanks vs Greece's 1500, or your 2 submarines. You can explore kiddie pools with these yes

Anyway if you want to compare militaries check this

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=greece&country2=malaysia&Submit=COMPARE


And if you want to compare the countries using a wide array of factors, from economic growth, to inequality, to freedoms, to corruption, to education, polution and etc use these.


http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2015_statistical_annex.pdf

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2016-updated-2.pdfyou yourself


There is no comparison really. But i only posted these because you steered the discussion that way, im more interested in you adressing my answer to the points you yourself made in the first place.

Its good to talk shit and troll, i do it too, but if you want to make heavy statements, you better be ready to back them up or get rekt by people who know more.





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Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

"Pewforum" thats a west website thats anti islam


Lmao. Says who? Source?





Scris de Guest, 21.02.2017 at 06:32

Give me a link from malaysia official website supporting suicide bombings



Through my links you can have a generic idea about the governments stance through the human rights violations report and the public opinion stance on various matters, expressed by opinion polls.

Dont try to mix these, unless the point you are trying to make is that public opinion does not matter and only the government stance matter? In that case take a look at the human rights violations report by government institutions, that i offered and wreck yourself.

Says Malaysia supports suivide bombing give source from a western website.

Says im getting personal when you quoted me first and talk about Malaysia and Muhammad.

If we were to war you would've been dead aince your country cant buy oil for your tanks..we have 70 tanks because our country isnt suitable for many tanks noob..asians countries use guerilla warfare..having many tanka doesnt determine anything. 2 submarine sailed >> 11 submarine that didnt sailed..abd youre begging to germany lol..quality>quantity.

And also like i said..your claim are false if its not originally from a malaysian website

Everybody in Malaysia hates Isis..and we've been attacked by isis before.isis are shithooes that needs to be erased because it is founded by the weatern trying to make muslim look bad.

Anyway thia isnt abouy countries comparison..and globalforepower is so outdated..we have attack helicopter..it isnt 100% right...you wanna claim your country to be the best? How bout you cleqred debt forst and get out of bankcruptcy and stop beggong germany. If greeks are smartasses they wouldn't have changd their currencies lol..and also we take rohingya refugees , syrian , bangladesh and many more..:)

Your gdp.per capita is high is because of your low population

Look at luxembourg lol 100k gdp per capita only 200k population

okay wait.
Is really anyone still thinking Greece is a good country to live in?
Lmfao
Well Malaysia is a country in growth and they aren't extreme muslim, so where is a problem?
For the guy who defends Greece:
And please dont come with this liberal bullshit about bombing civils while Greece treats Syrian refugees as pigs lmfao.
Greece made fake stats to enter EU and Eurozone so ANY ECONOMIC stats from Greece is fake as hell.

For the Malaysian:
I'm Christian but I respect Malaysia because it isn't a shitty poor extreme muslim country. Malaysia is a regional power with a great economy,
Also after some info I discovered that Malaysia has a lot of religions. 9.3% of the population is Christian though.
So telling Malaysia is terrorist, extreme Sharia country is a bullshit.

I did some research about Malaysia,while there constitution was indeed written with the intent of freedom to practice any religion, the current government interprets the constitution as freedom to practice islam, many minority groups have been battling to over rule this interpretation since 2002.

Aswell another constitutional right over ruled by there government is the two court system, where the first court is ran by the state and functions to uphold the laws for all people, while the second is a sharia court for muslims and acts to settle all issues that deals with sharia law. When the constitution was written court one was ment to over rule the sharia court in order to protect minorities, in the last two decades though the sharia court has taken presidence over the other which is harmful in cases of minority vs muslim civil disputes.

Lastly sharia is openly promoted in public schooling and is manditory in the curriculum, for a country with a massive economic desperaty gap this either means become a Muslim and gain an education or remain free in poverty. Couple this with the state only openly supporting mosques with economic support, and you have most minority groups struggling to keep up with islam. Hell it's illegal in Malaysia for a none muslim to even use there word god/allah.

So no malaysia is far better in terms of most middle eastern muslim societies, but is no where near unbiased or just in its persuite to spread sharia. If a country wishes to be islamic it needs to be secular and all religions equal under law. If it isn't then it can not take the moral high ground in a debate about religion in politics.
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21.02.2017 - 12:19
Also, when did tito see the light?
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21.02.2017 - 13:21
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Scris de Rock Lee, 21.02.2017 at 12:12



Lol.
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21.02.2017 - 13:31
Scris de Rock Lee, 21.02.2017 at 12:19

Also, when did tito see the light?

Multiple personality disorder, that's his orthodox serbian personality speaking.
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21.02.2017 - 15:25
Scris de Helly, 21.02.2017 at 13:31

Scris de Rock Lee, 21.02.2017 at 12:19

Also, when did tito see the light?

Multiple personality disorder, that's his orthodox serbian personality speaking.


American who wrote constitution about freedom while having slavery, acceptet millions immigrants then complain and who say he protect liberty and freedom while bombing 5 countries in the same time and invade 2 more while changed 50 regimes on planet earth talks about personality disorder.

Dude you are fucking hybrid without culture, religion and tradition. You don't even have a fucking language but use foreign as your native. Drugged, mocked and fat and you say something about others, embarassing, just embarassing. 320 million personality disorders, mentality splited from aedipus to darwin. Ape. You're a living experiment, lab mouse.

No wonder zombies are so popular in your country, soulless, stupid and violent. What else could you enjoy than zombies and avengers. Thank God for pacific and atlantic oceans.
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21.02.2017 - 15:47
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Scris de Helly, 21.02.2017 at 13:31

Scris de Rock Lee, 21.02.2017 at 12:19

Also, when did tito see the light?

Multiple personality disorder, that's his orthodox serbian personality speaking.

how many times i need to tell that he is from croatia...
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21.02.2017 - 15:50
Scris de Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 15:25


stop. fucking. trolling.

why has nobody banned you yet
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21.02.2017 - 16:01
Scris de Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 15:25

Scris de Helly, 21.02.2017 at 13:31

Scris de Rock Lee, 21.02.2017 at 12:19

Also, when did tito see the light?

Multiple personality disorder, that's his orthodox serbian personality speaking.


American who wrote constitution about freedom while having slavery, acceptet millions immigrants then complain and who say he protect liberty and freedom while bombing 5 countries in the same time and invade 2 more while changed 50 regimes on planet earth talks about personality disorder.

Dude you are fucking hybrid without culture, religion and tradition. You don't even have a fucking language but use foreign as your native. Drugged, mocked and fat and you say something about others, embarassing, just embarassing. 320 million personality disorders, mentality splited from aedipus to darwin. Ape. You're a living experiment, lab mouse.

No wonder zombies are so popular in your country, soulless, stupid and violent. What else could you enjoy than zombies and avengers. Thank God for pacific and atlantic oceans.

Culture is created with times passing, American culture is as hybrid of a culture as your own, as for the rest how can you say that about me when I have said the same thing about america the entire place is going to shit you can't insult me because I'm not apart of it. I'm from Germany you tool, so just about everything you said has no meaning.
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21.02.2017 - 20:53
Scris de Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 11:12

snip

Ahh okay that makes more sense. You're the first person I've heard it explain it like that so is it right for me to assume that this interpretation is not universally accepted in Christianity?
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21.02.2017 - 22:46
Khal is my hero when it comes to trashing islam

Deus vult
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Scris de Viruslegion, 21.02.2017 at 22:46

Khal is my hero when it comes to trashing islam

Deus vult

The only thing he did is talk bad about Malaysia and run away like a pussy
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KingJim is the only one capable reaching to Tito levels of reason

one day he will convert him into islam
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Scris de Rock Lee, 22.02.2017 at 00:09

KingJim is the only one capable reaching to Tito levels of reason

one day he will convert him into islam

Idk why but you seem obsessed with me. On forums , clan forum, even on message....
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Marriah Carrey - Obsessed
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Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 00:16

Idk why but you seem obsessed with me. On forums , clan forum, even on message....

you showed me the light but i can't do it alone, i need your guidance
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I just dont get it why would people.believe that jesus is god? Lol i mean like

1. God is the-Al Mighty. god is way beyond everything He can forgive us , He is the most merciful , the strongest , the most caring. Etc etc

2. Everything in this life is created by Allah. Every single thing planets , galaxies , angels, stars , God did create a lot of things that we dont know

3. Human is a sinner. We're not perfect like angels. Angels doesnt have free will they dont disobey God and Angel is by far better than humans. And youre telling me that jesus christ who is a human born through a human being and he is god?

4. Like i said God loves to forgives because he is the most merciful and He can do whatever he wants. He can forgive these sinners (we human beings) as long as we repent to Him and ask for forgiveness leave all the bad habits and only do good deeds. Allah can forgive you the second you ask for forgiveness

5. Allah owns everything including us humans. And he have rights over us because he created us he give us souls. Allah allow the devil to live till the end of the world. Because devil is jealous of adam when Allah created him..because devil thinks he is better than adam because devil is made from smokeless fire and adam only made from soil..devil refuses to prostate to Adam and he disobey Allah. So Allah punished him and the devil made promise to Allah that he wants to live till the day of judgement to show that he is better than us human beings. The devil is with us everywhere. To make sure that we go to hell with him. We cant run away from the devil because he lives through our veins. The life now is created for a test. We are being tested every single day. We all make mistake and sin.

6. As andartes stated above that jesus got killed in order to "reclaim planet from devil" and jesus who he said is a "god" got killed to show that he sacrifice his life for the people to forgive their sins and show how bad a sin is? Meanwhile the reality is we human beings are sinner (which is why Allah is the most merciful and most forgiving) if humanbeings arent a sinner then why would God be most merciful and most forgiving? Humans are basically the only sinners in this world. Animals doesnt sin. They cant think.

7. God is way beyond perfect. And youre telling me that jesus who is a human is a god? Allah created humans and humans are sinners. God isnt a sinner. God is way up above. Hes on his throne. Gabriel is so massive that he have 600 wings that covers the horizon. And youre telling me that God descend himself to become a human ?

8. God is way better than angels how can a god becomes a human being? Naturally human beings are weak (god isnt weak) we are the lowest and youre telling me, jesus christ who is a human is god?

9. Jesus is a prophet before Muhammad pbuh
These Messengers of the earth are picked personally by Allah to guide the people of their era to the straight path. Obviously their special abilities that Allah has grant them with, that no other human beings do.

10. And i think that everybody knows this. Every soul shall taste death. Pharaoh he claimed to be god..where is he now? Hes dead
Jesus christ is also dead. Only god that lives for eternity. You guys are so ignorance that youre worshipping a dead human being

11. Let me tell you something according to the Quran. Jesus isnt dead. When he was tied Allah changed him to another man by Allah's will and power. And Allah save jesua chriat and brough5 him to the sky..he will stay at the sky till the time anti christ came..and before anti chriat came there will be a massive war between muslims and jews/christians..for 3 days if im not mistaken it is so big that if a bird fly above they wouldnt pass it..they would end up dead..and at that time theres no tank and all other stuff..we're back to using swords, horses , archery and all that stuff..after the war is over anti christ will come out. And he will be followed by 70k jews persian and by at that time we muslim and imam mahdi are preparing to pray for salatul fajr. And at that time nabi Isa a.s (jesus christ) will come down to join the prayer with us. Hes holding on two angel's wings. And nabi Isa will personally kill Dajjal a.k.a anti christ. And that is the final signs that the day of judgement is near.

I dont know much but that is what i can give you at this moment
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Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

I just dont get it why would people.believe that jesus is god? Lol i mean like

all human are the reflection of god
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1. God is the most merciful

hahaha

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

2. Everything in this life is created by Allah. Every single thing planets , galaxies , angels, stars , God did create a lot of things that we dont know

so he created so many beautiful things so they can hide all theirselves including their faces and eyes? did he create galaxies so women could not leave home?

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

3. Human is a sinner. We're not perfect like angels. Angels doesnt have free will they dont disobey God and Angel is by far better than humans. And youre telling me that jesus christ who is a human born through a human being and he is god?

so, according to god free will is a sin? or a weakness? and you are saying he is most careful and merciful?

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

4. Like i said God loves to forgives because he is the most merciful and He can do whatever he wants. He can forgive these sinners (we human beings) as long as we repent to Him and ask for forgiveness leave all the bad habits and only do good deeds. Allah can forgive you the second you ask for forgiveness

a creature who can not ehmpathise and understand is not even worthy to be called animel, neigther human prophet or god.

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

5. Allah owns everything including us humans. And he have rights over us because he created us he give us souls. Allah allow the devil to live till the end of the world. Because devil is jealous of adam when Allah created him..because devil thinks he is better than adam because devil is made from smokeless fire and adam only made from soil..devil refuses to prostate to Adam and he disobey Allah. So Allah punished him and the devil made promise to Allah that he wants to live till the day of judgement to show that he is better than us human beings. The devil is with us everywhere. To make sure that we go to hell with him. We cant run away from the devil because he lives through our veins. The life now is created for a test. We are being tested every single day. We all make mistake and sin.

So, if god wants all his creatures to obey him, what's the point creating a rebel like Satan? and if he wants them to depend on his rules only and not having a free will why is he trying to teach us a lessons?

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

6. As andartes stated above that jesus got killed in order to "reclaim planet from devil" and jesus who he said is a "god" got killed to show that he sacrifice his life for the people to forgive their sins and show how bad a sin is? Meanwhile the reality is we human beings are sinner (which is why Allah is the most merciful and most forgiving) if humanbeings arent a sinner then why would God be most merciful and most forgiving? Humans are basically the only sinners in this world. Animals doesnt sin. They cant think.

Angels are animel then?

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

7. God is way beyond perfect. And youre telling me that jesus who is a human is a god? Allah created humans and humans are sinners. God isnt a sinner. God is way up above. Hes on his throne. Gabriel is so massive that he have 600 wings that covers the horizon. And youre telling me that God descend himself to become a human ?

8. God is way better than angels how can a god becomes a human being? Naturally human beings are weak (god isnt weak) we are the lowest and youre telling me, jesus christ who is a human is god?


you just repeated question six

Anyways, God is the only one to know the truth, and you filthy dumbfuck should'nt question what he says

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

9. Jesus is a prophet before Muhammad pbuh
These Messengers of the earth are picked personally by Allah to guide the people of their era to the straight path. Obviously their special abilities that Allah has grant them with, that no other human beings do.

Why Such a capable and merciful creature needs humans to speak for him? ai'nt he skilled and delightful enough?

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

10. And i think that everybody knows this. Every soul shall taste death. Pharaoh he claimed to be god..where is he now? Hes dead
Jesus christ is also dead. Only god that lives for eternity. You guys are so ignorance that youre worshipping a dead human being

Yup, people die, it's not a reason for me to trust fictional asshole, i have plenty of real ones around me.

Scris de Guest, 22.02.2017 at 06:31

11. Let me tell you something according to the Quran. Jesus isnt dead. When he was tied Allah changed him to another man by Allah's will and power. And Allah save jesua chriat and brough5 him to the sky..he will stay at the sky till the time anti christ came..and before anti chriat came there will be a massive war between muslims and jews/christians..for 3 days if im not mistaken it is so big that if a bird fly above they wouldnt pass it..they would end up dead..and at that time theres no tank and all other stuff..we're back to using swords, horses , archery and all that stuff..after the war is over anti christ will come out. And he will be followed by 70k jews persian and by at that time we muslim and imam mahdi are preparing to pray for salatul fajr. And at that time nabi Isa a.s (jesus christ) will come down to join the prayer with us. Hes holding on two angel's wings. And nabi Isa will personally kill Dajjal a.k.a anti christ. And that is the final signs that the day of judgement is near.

I dont know much but thoa is what i can gove you at this moment

you did'nt impress me.

Yehova fictions are way more entertaining
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Your own perception of god is beyond irrelevant. In the end you got no way to prove that's how a god should be or should not be. We just don't know what he could've been. And besides, Allah is merciful now? Lololol
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Your own perception of god is beyond irrelevant. In the end you got no way to prove that's how a god should be or should not be. We just don't know what he could've been. And besides, Allah is merciful now? Lololol

It is God's nature. Nobody can surpass god. God has always been Merciful. Youre just ignorant
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