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Postat de , 10.02.2016 - 10:50
Seriously, this is becoming a mental disease. 99% of AtWar players play the same map on same settings all over, the whole day. And they talk shit about other maps like "they're unbalanced", "they're shitty" and bla bla bla while they have never played them. No matter the RP, scenario, EU, custom map or whatever kind of players, almost everybody is the same. What the fuck?

Also, I must say that players' IQ and logics is goddamn high. There are 50 people in lobby. Imagine if 18 of them told me "that map will never fill up without noobs" and I never fill up a 19 players game.

YES! YOU GOT IT! Games will never fill up if everybody just say "it will never fill up, bye".

Sondaj

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11.02.2016 - 19:39
Scris de clovis1122, 11.02.2016 at 14:39

Scris de Permamuted, 11.02.2016 at 12:47

You cant accredit him with any of those things. Anyone who understands how lb works would have the sense to use it in certain scenarios.


That is rather a understatement. Proof comes that LB was though under powered and useless from times to times. So much that it got a Mega-buff (LB's golden times) which was criticized by Mathdinho and subsequently LB got a very harsh Nerf that returned it to where it was.

Even AlexMeza's work didn't raised awareness among the community on how strong LB can be. In what we though it was better at (Rush) was undermined when new and more potent rushes with other strategies were discovered. LB Spain Rush was forgotten. LB became know again as a blatantly weak strategy. To use someone's word, "LB was designed to be a troll strat".

Not even in WW2 and other pioneer scenarios, which features units with higher stats, LB made it's comeback. We had to wait for the trench system era, where it became any useful. But personally I only got to see other "strong" scenario players like njab, eren, godfada, etc.... after karl used it first. Then, other common players with premium were instructed to play it. Only then LB became somewhat know, and I took the task to expand this to the rest of the community in several posts of myself, such as this one.

If it was such a common logic then someone else than AlexMeza (which, by the way, did a lot of tests of LB rolls) would had noticed it long ago.

Scris de Permamuted, 11.02.2016 at 12:47

If he plays that map so much im sure he has figured out some tricks, but who is there to test them against. He has no competition. Even if thats true how can you know whats in his clan.


I wouldn't say that he documented the research if I didn't knew it. That wasn't an assumption.

Scris de Permamuted, 11.02.2016 at 12:47

You claim that sm and illy are stacked with hidden knowlege and guides. Theyre actually not.


I can't believe you're denying that.

Scris de Permamuted, 11.02.2016 at 12:47

this guy has no elo or trophies to his name, theres no indicator of his level at all. The chances are he is as average as the rest of them.


Number of tournament trophies and even ELO are only a rough indicator of how strong a player is. Both are obviously, flawed. I could of say that both Desu and learster are weaker than the nowadays players by those indicators.

If what you mean is that he didn't made his name go through the community, that is right. Just like LB's usage in scenario I am also trying to spread a couple of his research, in particular with the battle stacking bonus.

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=23924


mate most of the work in disseminating aw info has been done, little bits and pieces lying around the forums and clan forums have been put into guides etc. It's not the fog it used to be. A lot of stuff is just repetition or links to main forum.
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11.02.2016 - 20:23
Scris de Xenosapien, 11.02.2016 at 19:39

mate most of the work in disseminating aw info has been done, little bits and pieces lying around the forums and clan forums have been put into guides etc. It's not the fog it used to be. A lot of stuff is just repetition or links to main forum.


Back in my times...
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11.02.2016 - 21:34
Scris de clovis1122, 11.02.2016 at 14:39

But personally I only got to see other "strong" scenario players like njab, eren, godfada, etc.... after karl used it first.


if you consider those scenario players as good, then you most likely consider me a God. Bow down to me, you plebeian mortal!, I have destroyed your heroes and I will continue to do so until they all submit to my endless might!.
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11.02.2016 - 22:01
Scris de Tundy, 11.02.2016 at 21:34

Scris de clovis1122, 11.02.2016 at 14:39

But personally I only got to see other "strong" scenario players like njab, eren, godfada, etc.... after karl used it first.


if you consider those scenario players as good, then you most likely consider me a God. Bow down to me, you plebeian mortal!, I have destroyed your heroes and I will continue to do so until they all submit to my endless might!.


You didn't had to delete and repost to call my attention.

I find it quite pointless to argue about who is better when I am just trying to underline karlscher's characteristic. I believe I summed it up quite nice in my reply against cive:

Scris de clovis1122, 11.02.2016 at 14:05

Scris de Evic, 11.02.2016 at 13:08




cive,

I see now that I was probably too harsh and I'm sorry for that. I have no interest but to show karl as an example on how the scenario players community should'be. You say he is a noob player, memorize, and even lack of knowledge in some areas such as Wall Glitch. And you are probably right about it, but that is not what I'm speaking about here.

I am pretty sure you've saw at least once in lobby a private WW1 games with only 1 player. I once did and saw karl there, and asked personally what was he doing. "Trying new combos" he said. Things such as IF UK, or even the tactic to bring all Egypt reinf to break Gallipodi. He may not be the first one to do it, but he certainly tried all that. I doubt LB would get to be as popular choice as it is now, if karl didn't had discovered or re-discovered it by himself.

Once we did some tests on Endsieg. He said, that if WG and Prussia send 50 infantries each, to attack a stack of 100 soviet infantries, the soviets will have more units (less casualties) surviving than if Prussia send the 100 infantries by himself. I'll leave the conclusion for when I quote Laochra. He had also tested several other things by himself.

If only other scenario players were like that! Most of the times when I play it I only find people saying it was either a bug or hack, but barely anyone tries to research what REALLY HAPPENED there. You can be sure, cive, that if you do something strange against karl he will research it by himself.

I believe, really believe that this is the only way to grow. When someone does something strange to you, you can feel in the need of call him hacker or anything. But the best you can do is to go and research, try to replicate what they did to you. Open a private game, invite someone if needed and replicate it. That is what karl does and he indeed have my respects for that. That single quality marks him out of the rest of scenario players. For me, he is the stronger. You can differ saying that he isn't a strong players and I am not here to argue about that.


I have nothing more constructive to say.
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12.02.2016 - 00:12
Autistic not, but lack of originality and/or realism. Massive RP, even in CWs and 3v3's.
Players from... let's say - as example - Bosnia, stating they are from Germany and praising Fascism... shitty Untermenschen that would have been exterminated in KZs 70 years ago.
Please get some historic facts in your brains.

GG.
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12.02.2016 - 02:07
Scris de Guest, 10.02.2016 at 10:50

Seriously, this is becoming a mental disease. 99% of AtWar players play the same map on same settings all over, the whole day.


First of all, your statistics are completely wrong, mate! How can 99% of AtWar players play the same map, on same settings, over, and over again??
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12.02.2016 - 02:25
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Scris de theFuehrer, 12.02.2016 at 02:07



Turn your brain on then talk to me.
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12.02.2016 - 05:02
Scris de Zephyrusu, 10.02.2016 at 15:41

This is the best poll ever.
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