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Scris de Tirpitz406, 19.10.2015 at 15:20

there also are people who deny the holocaust, i'm not saying you're insane, other than...you are insane.

the "letting millions of ukrainians starve to death" mass murder is generally accepted, even by russians, the gulags were basically nazi wörkcamps where millions died, wich also was generally accepted until a few years ago, until putin decided, he didnt really want to feel like a german about his past.

and when your army rapes and kills civilians (yes, germans aswell) thats not a necessary consequence of war, something that the red army did just as much as germans did...

and the lebensraum part is debatable, i mean, it could be meant just like soviets hunted, killed or exiled millions of germans and poles from belorussia, königsberg and prussia, but its also possible that they just wanted to inhabit empty siberia. prove me wrong.

West was afraid Communism might spread there after Russian Revolution in 1917 and European Revolutions of 1848. That's why it created sophisticated propaganda machine to target USSR and persuade the world against it.

1) Soviet famines killed more Russians and Kazakhs than Ukrainians but 'Ukrainian genocide' suits the West to target USSR and modern Russia and try to turn the world against it. It is easy to see that famine strike Russian and Kazakh populated areas and not Ukrainian, it doesnt matter if internal republic was called 'Soviet Ukraine', it was populated by many nationalities and ethnic groups - not only Ukrainian.

2) Famines happenes because of bad weather, fail to distribute food and war. I explained in topic before that Vulcan eruption in Latin America caused famine in Russia 1600's. Targeting political ideology (communism) or specific people (russian) is retarded when proofs are obvious nature create chain reactions.

3) Maybe it is 'generally accepted' on the West, but on in the rest of the Free World where we learn true history and not distorted one to suit our political goals. Gulag was system of prisons, not death camps. Gulag was created so prisoners can work and not sit with thumb in their butts doing nothing for years. Human body rot without work, with inactivity and mind goes insane. I would rather work 20h a day then sit in 2x3 cell. Because it is normal to be physicaly active, sitting is unnatural.
Gulag is used as propaganda to make your population fear USSR and communism, so you can profit on that fear, selling guns and bringing troops to start wars where that people will die.

4) Between 100,000 and 500,000 prisoners died in Gulag throughout USSR history. There are no millions and billions. They died from sickness, cold, lack of medication during first years of USSR when WW1 was over and everything lacked and wasn't produced. Russians and other people of North Asia are not sheeps. We love freedom more than anything, and if communists oppressed us we wouldnt sit down and do nothing, we would start a war, a revolution to change them. Russians already started revolution once against the Tsar, why wouldn't those same people start again against Stalin 20 years later? It is insulting when West use Stalin as 'evil of all evils' because it insult Russians and other people of North Asia as slaves, weaklings and cowards while in fact we've shown greatest courage and ethos than any other population on this planet.

5) Communism and USSR had its flaws and mistakes - none of those West using in propaganda purposes.

6) Soviets returned Germans a favor, Germans raped boys and girls, young and old women. Soviets did the same to Germans to revenge mothers, daughters and wifes. No one could stop Red Army soldiers to do it, they hated Germans for behaving like savages during the war. Not even French soldiers in 1812 behaved like that. Red Army raped in Germany, but only that, Germans did everything in USSR, from raping to butchering and killing, hanging, burning. Nazi Germany propaganda claimed how civilized and superior they are while in reality they were ISIS of 1940. What else to say when you see 'German ministry of Propaganda'... similar to todays Ukrainian 'ministry of truth'.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:23

tl;dr

you're an idiot spreading lies

Scris de Tirpitz406, 20.10.2015 at 13:34

tl;dr

you're an idiot spreading lies

Insulting proves you don't have answer and argument to reply. It also show your age and manners.

Thank you for giving us that information so we know how to position ourselves against you in the future, since normal human approach doesn't work.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:45

Tito, i have talked to you often enough to know that you're a liar and that almost everything you say are lies

Scris de Tirpitz406, 20.10.2015 at 13:49

Tito, i have talked to you often enough to know that you're a liar and that almost everything you say are lies

That's a lie, we never talked except here on forum about politics. We never played games except maybe 2 once in a year without talking. Basically i just know you as a player who spam countryball images and post few comments in political debates.

Claiming i am a liar without showing proof is worthless. But keep it going if you feel better, no one cares.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:23

3) Maybe it is 'generally accepted' on the West, but on in the rest of the Free World where we learn true history and not distorted one to suit our political goals.

o rly? why do you ban the internet then? and why dont you open the soviet archives?

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:55

Scris de Tirpitz406, 20.10.2015 at 13:49

Tito, i have talked to you often enough to know that you're a liar and that almost everything you say are lies

That's a lie, we never talked except here on forum about politics. We never played games except maybe 2 once in a year without talking. Basically i just know you as a player who spam countryball images and post few comments in political debates.

Claiming i am a liar without showing proof is worthless. But keep it going if you feel better, no one cares.

but...this is one of said "talks about politics" and from what i remember, you lied a lot in those

Scris de Khal.eesi, 20.10.2015 at 13:55

o rly? why do you ban the internet then? and why dont you open the soviet archives?

1) We censor internet, not banning it. Pornography, drugs(narcotics) information, murder information and pedophilia is banned on the internet. That harm humans as murder and rape harm humans in real life and it is against the law. That is good thing, not bad, it is bad for 'liberal' people of the West whos motto is 'it is forbiden to forbid' which means human on the west can be raped and cannot sue and ask for punishment of the perpetrator as it is freedom and his right to do it. We are against it.

2) Most of Soviet archives are opened, but militar, cosmonautical and scientifical archives should not be open for the public as it is contain sensitive and secret informations which can harm Russia and humanity if it gets in the wrong hands. As monks protected knowledge in the medieval era, guarding their monasteries which contain books with informations, so we must protect some knowledge today, guarding it 24/7. There are many viruses, chemical poisons and weapons created recently, if it gets in the wrong hands say goodbye to planet earth.

Scris de Khal.eesi, 20.10.2015 at 13:55

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:23

3) Maybe it is 'generally accepted' on the West, but on in the rest of the Free World where we learn true history and not distorted one to suit our political goals.

o rly? why do you ban the internet then? and why dont you open the soviet archives?

Soviet archives are open right now. Where is the American archive?

Scris de Helly, 20.10.2015 at 16:24

Scris de Khal.eesi, 20.10.2015 at 13:55

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:23

3) Maybe it is 'generally accepted' on the West, but on in the rest of the Free World where we learn true history and not distorted one to suit our political goals.

o rly? why do you ban the internet then? and why dont you open the soviet archives?

Soviet archives are open right now. Where is the American archive?

ok,i opened.
Bombing of middle east,north africa for"democratic"reasons.

Scris de Helly, 20.10.2015 at 16:24

Scris de Khal.eesi, 20.10.2015 at 13:55

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:23

3) Maybe it is 'generally accepted' on the West, but on in the rest of the Free World where we learn true history and not distorted one to suit our political goals.

o rly? why do you ban the internet then? and why dont you open the soviet archives?

Soviet archives are open right now. Where is the American archive?

i was under the impression they opened briefly and then closed again? Moreso, tito generalised about the West and Americans are not the only West. In all the studies and the freedom index and the freedom of press report by journalists without borders, Europe, Canada and Australia are leading the way in terms of freedom, not only press and information, but virtually every single freedom. America is on a more mediocre position, but still way higher than Russia or China for that matter. Countries that censor the internet and the press and dont even have elections cannot and should not talk about misinformation and propaganda imo.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:45

Scris de Tirpitz406, 20.10.2015 at 13:34

Insulting proves you don't have answer and argument to reply. It also show your age and manners.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 19.10.2015 at 13:38

Reading tunder's and virus' comments is like watching CNN about Russia

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 12:59

Just because West rated Estonia free doesn't mean that's true. In fact Estonia can have developed economy, but Estonians are brutal like African terrorists. 300,000 of 1 million population in Estonia is Russian, they don't have IDs, passports, healthcare, civil rights, human rights, nothing. Estonians oppress them for 20 years and if they had strength they would gladly see Baltic Russians die or leave. So where is press freedom for Baltic citizens of Russian nationality? Or freedom only applies to non-Russian whites?

I think that the fact that the country (France) in which the organisation (Reporters sans Frontiérs) which published the report was based failed to score in the top 25 in the last few years says a lot about their neutrality.

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Scris de Khal.eesi, 20.10.2015 at 16:51

Scris de Helly, 20.10.2015 at 16:24

Scris de Khal.eesi, 20.10.2015 at 13:55

Scris de Skanderbeg, 20.10.2015 at 13:23

3) Maybe it is 'generally accepted' on the West, but on in the rest of the Free World where we learn true history and not distorted one to suit our political goals.

o rly? why do you ban the internet then? and why dont you open the soviet archives?

Soviet archives are open right now. Where is the American archive?

i was under the impression they opened briefly and then closed again? Moreso, tito generalised about the West and Americans are not the West. In all the studies and the freedom index and the freedom of press report by journalists without borders, Europe, Canada and Australia are leading the way in terms of freedom, not only press and information, but virtually every single freedom. America is on a more mediocre position, but still way higher than Russia or China for that matter. Countries that censor the internet and the press and dont even have elections cannot and should not talk about misinformation and propaganda imo.

Russia China America.... there is no diference in there brutality or efforts to get richer and more powrrful. Only diference is exucution, Russia will punch you in the face and take your money, America will become your best friend then take your money. Russia has always been more blunt with its over all objectives while America has been involved in one covert black flag operation after another. That's why there archives will never be open they would be hanged. Russias archives can be accessed right now. Why you may ask? Because the bear fears no scrutiny while the bald eagle fears for its life. To rebuttal my point both are criminals but they will fuck yoy in very diferent ways.

Edit: for an example russia blocks and censors Internet use. While America just floods the internet will all forms of lies and satire, making finding the truth almost impossible to find anyways.

• reads Serbian online news
• reads an article in which a so called "reporter" claims "alleged historical facts"
• which he read from some guy's Facebook!!! xD
• he even posted a picture of the guy's facebook post for fuck sake
• i try to comment... pointing out that its fucking retarded that an article is made out of someone's fucking FB post LMAO
• my comment sent to an admin so he can ...lol decide if its alright for my comment to be posted

This kind of brainwashing into hate "news" are posted daily, anti-Croatian, anti-western news and usually comes with hundreds of brutal hate comments... i can only imagine what Russian news look like

Yet you can't even comment... if an admin doesn't approve what you said. I tried to comment on Serbian news few times... calling them on their unprofessionalism.
My comments either REMOVED or never approved

EASTERN FREEDOM FUCK YA!

Scris de International, 20.10.2015 at 20:31

I think that the fact that the country (France) in which the organisation (Reporters sans Frontiérs) which published the report was based failed to score in the top 25 in the last few years says a lot about their neutrality.

Same France which is member of EU, NATO(tried to leave, couldn't, i wonder why?), forced to sanction Russia while population complain (democracy?), where most of parties report abuse and pressure from America?

I don't think they are neutral.

Scris de For Antioch, 20.10.2015 at 15:46

.... are you serious? Do you know anything about the world outside of your own fantasies?

Correct question whould be why you don't see West like the rest of us do?

- inquisition
- crusaders
- colonization of foreign continents
- genocide of native population
- wars
- manmade famines
- ethnic cleansing

Fantasies? Where does it stop? And why all that, for what purpose?

Scris de Skanderbeg, 21.10.2015 at 10:12

Scris de For Antioch, 20.10.2015 at 15:46

.... are you serious? Do you know anything about the world outside of your own fantasies?

Correct question whould be why you don't see West like the rest of us do?

- inquisition
- crusaders
- colonization of foreign continents
- genocide of native population
- wars
- manmade famines
- ethnic cleansing

Fantasies? Where does it stop? And why all that, for what purpose?

Didnt the Persians do the same? Arabs? Didnt Seljuk turks? Didnt the Mongols? Didnt the Japanese? Didnt the Chinese? You just blame the West because they were more successfull. Dont be a butthurt child. These are parts of our history as humans, wether you like it or not.

Correct question is who are "all the rest of you" ?

Scris de Khal.eesi, 21.10.2015 at 11:01

Didnt the Persians do the same? Arabs? Didnt Seljuk turks? Didnt the Mongols? Didnt the Japanese? Didnt the Chinese? You just blame the West because they were more successfull. Dont be a butthurt child. These are parts of our history as humans, wether you like it or not.

Correct question is who are "all the rest of you" ?

Persians never killed population of occupied territories, only opposing armies. Mongols did kill population of occupied territories but never in the amount Europeans did to their newly enslaved population. Mongols held Russia for 300 years and not more than 500,000 died - Europeans arrive in America and 50 million natives die. That's the difference between West and the East.

Milions died because Europeans were bacteria carriers indians had no natural defenses for... Gengis Khan erased the whole (forgive i cant spell this) kwazarian empire because they "insulted" his daughter i think... Persians burned athens to the ground.

Saw it in 300 part 2 xD

Scris de Skanderbeg, 21.10.2015 at 12:42

Persians never killed population of occupied territories, only opposing armies. Mongols did kill population of occupied territories but never in the amount Europeans did to their newly enslaved population. Mongols held Russia for 300 years and not more than 500,000 died - Europeans arrive in America and 50 million natives die. That's the difference between West and the East.

Yeah Persians were angels and Romans were evil tyrants. Mongols did not kill millions in one ride of their horse, only colonialists did. Stalin did not kill 50 millions, but USA evil.

Stop thinking of history like an uneducated peasant. your bias and generalizations make it seem like im talking to a child. Also before you judge the West once more, take a look around you and every single thing you have.

Scris de Khal.eesi, 21.10.2015 at 16:11

Yeah Persians were angels and Romans were evil tyrants. Mongols did not kill millions in one ride of their horse, only colonialists did. Stalin did not kill 50 millions, but USA evil.

Stop thinking of history like an uneducated peasant. your bias and generalizations make it seem like im talking to a child. Also before you judge the West once more, take a look around you. Take a look at every single thing you have (except things made of paper or silk). Then say thanks West and delete your self.

Hahah how to talk with you when YOU are the biased one, totally pro-western and you believe Stalin killed 50 million. Stop pulling numbers out of your background... to be polite. You hear someone on the west tell something and you obey it, then you repeat that and blame east, so not biased.

As i said - two worlds, one want to destroy the other. Thats the truth and facts are all around.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 22.10.2015 at 13:59

As i said - two worlds, one want to destroy the other. Thats the truth and facts are all around.

That might be "your" truth, but not for the rest of us. Most of us do not align with our governments foreign or economic policies. No one wants to destroy Russia. USA leadership wants to contain Russia inside its borders and Russia wants to weaken USA global power. Deal with it and stop acting like a baby.

Again this topic was about Israel.

Scris de 1GodofWar1, 20.10.2015 at 12:50

terrorism needs to be cut off at the root Israel is handling this with silk gloves, any other sane country would bomb the fuck out of the threat that is putting their civilians in grave peril.

you mean the peril that the Palestinians are living under, right? from Israel, right?. just saying the invading force is stereotypically looked upon as the evil force but double standards in society always amazed my personally.

also for you information the arabs had an agreement with the english that for there help in ww1 in the area they would be granted that portion of land. then the jews decided upon themselves to go to some irrelevant back bencher eijit and get the same deal from someone without the authority to give it about half a year after the arabs got legitimate deal signed. then they just decided to start chipping away and forging that unauthorized deal beside to sea.

now in fairness the history books soften the blow somewhat and tell it with a bit of cushion but isreal is westerner's ally after all and those same books also try to tell us that the gulf of tonkin incident actually happened, so fuckit if you wanna read those that's your own undoing.

Not to say i'm backing either side but i feel like your pro-isreal rant needed something to balance the scales.

personally if you nuked that entire region you would solve alot of problems and i'm already desensitized by world media to not care about people being dead in the middle east. Or maybe that was just specific to Muslims being killed in the middle east.
huh guess we wont know any time soon anyway which it is. I cant imagine the United states will turn on isreal any time soon to find out.



[Edit} also the idea of terrorism is bullshit, it was invented to justify unjustifiable invasions beneath a foreign power.

Scris de Khal.eesi, 22.10.2015 at 14:18

That might be "your" truth, but not for the rest of us. Most of us do not align with our governments foreign or economic policies. No one wants to destroy Russia. USA leadership wants to contain Russia inside its borders and Russia wants to weaken USA global power. Deal with it and stop acting like a baby.

Again this topic was about Israel.

Why you write such ****** and then say 'it's about something else', why trolling?

As i said, you are brainwashed, can't talk to a drone, i can talk to his controller though. America invaded Russia in Russian civil war - says America doesnt want to destroy Russia, America sanction Russia - says they dont want to destroy Russia, America encricle Russia with military, bases, change governments to create hostile neighbors - says America doesnt want to destroy Russia





Are you blind or willingfully ignorant? Stop ignoring the truth, grow up and face the facts. There is no 'two truths' like you would like it to be, there are no 'relative' things, only false and true, it cant be different. There are point of views, but no point of truth.

Now stop with western propaganda, this is about Israel-Palestine topic.

Scris de Skanderbeg, 22.10.2015 at 14:30

Scris de Khal.eesi, 22.10.2015 at 14:18

That might be "your" truth, but not for the rest of us. Most of us do not align with our governments foreign or economic policies. No one wants to destroy Russia. USA leadership wants to contain Russia inside its borders and Russia wants to weaken USA global power. Deal with it and stop acting like a baby.

Again this topic was about Israel.

Why you write such ****** and then say 'it's about something else', why trolling?

As i said, you are brainwashed, can't talk to a drone, i can talk to his controller though. America invaded Russia in Russian civil war - says America doesnt want to destroy Russia, America sanction Russia - says they dont want to destroy Russia, America encricle Russia with military, bases, change governments to create hostile neighbors - says America doesnt want to destroy Russia





Are you blind or willingfully ignorant? Stop ignoring the truth, grow up and face the facts. There is no 'two truths' like you would like it to be, there are no 'relative' things, only false and true, it cant be different. There are point of views, but no point of truth.

Now stop with western propaganda, this is about Israel-Palestine topic.

lol. USA is the world's superpower with a corrupt and greedy leadership, no shit sherlock. That is not a secret and you are not a revolutionary. When you stop the cri we can continue our conversation. As i said, proven by your words and pictures, USA wants to weaken and contain Russia. That is what superpowers do. If you didnt want in, you shouldnt have enganged in a pissmatch when USSR was strong. You cant back out now, just because you lost the Cold war. And its not like Russia is a saint. Russia bullied all its neighbours, did their fair share of polanding raping and killing, installing puppet states, meddling into other countries affairs and spying and so on. If it could destroy USA it would. But time just proved USA was more competent and lucky and overshadowed you. Just accept it.


p.s. Btw i support Russia in Ukraine conflict and in Syria, mainly because i wish for a balance of powers. I guess i am not an American drone after all, right? And as for the economic sanctions, Europeans dont really want them, but Washington strongarmed our weakling politicians into doing their bid, so the euro falls and the dollar doesnt collapse. What can you do, as i said its the superpower..

Scris de Netre, 22.10.2015 at 14:19

Scris de 1GodofWar1, 20.10.2015 at 12:50

terrorism needs to be cut off at the root Israel is handling this with silk gloves, any other sane country would bomb the fuck out of the threat that is putting their civilians in grave peril.

you mean the peril that the Palestinians are living under, right? from Israel, right?. just saying the invading force is stereotypically looked upon as the evil force but double standards in society always amazed my personally.

also for you information the arabs had an agreement with the english that for there help in ww1 in the area they would be granted that portion of land. then the jews decided upon themselves to go to some irrelevant back bencher eijit and get the same deal from someone without the authority to give it about half a year after the arabs got legitimate deal signed. then they just decided to start chipping away and forging that unauthorized deal beside to sea.

now in fairness the history books soften the blow somewhat and tell it with a bit of cushion but isreal is westerner's ally after all and those same books also try to tell us that the gulf of tonkin incident actually happened, so fuckit if you wanna read those that's your own undoing.

Not to say i'm backing either side but i feel like your pro-isreal rant needed something to balance the scales.

personally if you nuked that entire region you would solve alot of problems and i'm already desensitized by world media to not care about people being dead in the middle east. Or maybe that was just specific to Muslims being killed in the middle east.
huh guess we wont know any time soon anyway which it is. I cant imagine the United states will turn on isreal any time soon to find out.



[Edit} also the idea of terrorism is bullshit, it was invented to justify unjustifiable invasions beneath a foreign power.

hue. you have 0 proof to back what you are saying.
but yeah the nuke idea sounds good.

Scris de 1GodofWar1, 22.10.2015 at 15:11

Scris de Netre, 22.10.2015 at 14:19

Scris de 1GodofWar1, 20.10.2015 at 12:50

true though there are accounts somewhere in British historical and scientific forums. if you want to look for it you welcome i don't care enough about this to go to the effort. , not that i know how to find them anymore anywar. they are not in middle eastern circles though which is strange that i or friends have been able to find at least.
also too can play at that game. you didn't supply proof. at least we're in agreement about the nuke though.

I got put onto the trail of that information by a youtube channel called "the great war", it done an episode on English intervention in the middle east and attacking ottomans. your welcome to look that up, Its actually a really good channel very unbiased, its perspective is completely down to earth