New Rank System

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What the current Rank System lacks in fairness and is geared towards rewarding the crazed players Rank 7+. Bearing in mind that these consist of only <15% of total players, this seems weird. Also, I remembered vividly when I was a Rank 4 that I hardly cared about the high ranks. If they were Rank 7+ I knew they have a lot of time on their hands (This was before I submitted to AW ) In addition, I dreaded that empty SP bar until I ranked up to 5.

I propose a 40 level system that max out with 1000000 SP and 4 Tiers (0-9; 10-19; 20-29; 30-39) with Rank 0 requiring 100 SP. Note that accounts with less than 100 SP will be unclassified under my suggestion. The more observant those of you will realise the relationship between the above numbers. This brings us on to the formula.

Formula: (Log10(SP)*10)-20

Conversely, the SP required to determine reaching a new rank is based on 10^2.0 to 6.0. With the Tiers system, Tier 1 will be those Rank 7+ equivalent; Tier 2 those Rank 4 to Rank 6 equivalent; Tier 3 those roughly Rank 2 to Rank 3 equivalent; Tier 4 those roughly Rank 0-1 equivalent.

What this means is that those important current Rank 4s and Rank 5s can rank up with smaller gaps whilst the high ranks still have the challenge to max out. With these tiers, it is also possible to allow upgrades and bonuses there to cheer on those players.

NEW-20 Ranks Chart (No more heart attacks):

Clear Chart (40 Ranks):

SP Curve Comparison (Blue=Default, Red=My Suggestion)

Different tiers can play between themselves? Or will it be like begginers room?

Also I like this: more ranks => more goals => more addiction

Ezzatam, thats a high numer of ranks...
you could rank up from 0 to rank 20 in less than 24h.
[I ranked my alt: Remake.]

Scris de Goblin, 10.01.2013 at 17:48

You could get from rank 0 to rank 20 in a day. Actually you could get from rank 0 to rank 10 in one game.
I thought you will propose more ranks but this many. o.O
Also i have to ask how do you think this would affect clan wars, in terms of finding equal ranks for a cw? It wouldn't be possible to be equal tiers.

You are thinking about medals right? You could easily shift that to be unlocked in the next tier, eg: Bronze Medals unlocked at 1k sp (Tier 3), Silver Medals unlocked at 10k sp (Tier 2), Gold Medals unlocked at 100k sp (Tier 1), then charge people to buy premium medal pack if they want to unlock without enough sp.

Again, Tier privileges. You could limit all rank members to be in Tier 1 (equivalent Rank 7+) or have a linked/unlinked training clan in Tier 2 (equivalent Rank 4-6). To create a balance, you could always give 1.25x or 1.5x CW points to tier 2 v tier 2 clan wars.

Think like a low rank. Not your alts. Thanks for comment!

Scris de blargh, 10.01.2013 at 16:27

Different tiers can play between themselves? Or will it be like begginers room?

Also I like this: more ranks => more goals => more addiction

Well I think by default games would include their own tier and 1 tier below that for Tier 1 only. Unless the host decides to change that, or for larger games you could add the option of Tier 1 -3.
Beginners Room would be Tier 3 and 4 with Tier 1 Supporters mixed in.
Main Room would be Tier 1 and 2 and 3

Basically, upon 1k SP (Tier 3), you can enter the Main Room and you can't enter the Beginners Room with 10k sp (Tier 2)
(Read my comment above also) Thanks!

Scris de Tundy, 10.01.2013 at 18:36

Ezzatam, thats a high numer of ranks...
you could rank up from 0 to rank 20 in less than 24h.
[I ranked my alt: Remake.]

Change the Medals unlock position to be between the Tiers. (Read the Post 2 above this)
Think like a low rank dude... Not your Alt.

The challenge is there, but I just made the linear SP gap a bit longer.

Thanks for comment!

Okay look at this, first player of day , in last 24h today has achived 4000 sp that mean he would be like rank 17 if he started out today.I don't think idea is bad but u need to make higher sp standars for leveling up. I mean there is from 1st to 3rd rank only 200 sp that is easy to complete so , I support idea but u need to make it a bit better.

Sry for bad english!

I think this is a very good suggestion. The icons could be awarded every 4 ranks to save the trouble of creating 40 new rank designs.

Scris de notserral, 11.01.2013 at 11:51

I think this is a very good suggestion. The icons could be awarded every 4 ranks to save the trouble of creating 40 new rank designs.

Or give colours for the Tiers then use 0 to 9 or 1-10 icons.

Scris de Goblin, 11.01.2013 at 13:54

I'm sorry i don't intend to bash your idea, but i think that you are trying to hard (respect to you btw.) to fix something that isn't actually broken ...only maybe i believe that ranks 4 and maybe even 5 still belong in the beginners room.

Same as what Pulse said lol about Ranks 4 and 5... BUT, you leave leave them in beginners room then they would just keep getting sp by beating the even weaker Rank 1s and 2s. Hence I suggest a tier system, if a rank 5 opens a game then they would be playing against people of same tier (Rank 4,5,6) and people of lower tier (Rank 2,3) in the main room. That way Rank 4s and 5s would still be safe from Rank 8,9,10 farmers.

Well, it's simple then: the rank limit could default to -3 ranks ~ +3 ranks. This way, a Rank 4 would create a game for ranks 1~7, but he could still alter it to 0~15.

Scris de notserral, 11.01.2013 at 14:43

Well, it's simple then: the rank limit could default to -3 ranks ~ +3 ranks. This way, a Rank 4 would create a game for ranks 1~7, but he could still alter it to 0~15.

Then I propose that Tier 1 play with Tier 1 and Tier 2 (for numerical reasons that only 500 players will be in Tier 1) then each Tier plays with its own. So Tier 1s can't join a Tier 2 game. That way Rank 4,5,6 equivalent can decide whether to play with the high ranks (who could be hosting better games) or not. Instead of calculating average rank which is useless, the host rank (and tier) could then be displayed as well.

Rank limit as option really doesn't work and it is mainly used for duels and 3v3s...

A few things(not of your idea, but of aw itself) would need to be redone like the beginners room of course, as you've said. I do support this idea since you have everything nicely laid out. This would make things at a low rank accelerate faster and give more sense of accomplishment in a shorter period of time.

Is there anything specific you would want to do with the tiers? Colors to peoples rank to denote their tier?

Scris de ezzatam, 11.01.2013 at 15:02

Scris de notserral, 11.01.2013 at 14:43

Well, it's simple then: the rank limit could default to -3 ranks ~ +3 ranks. This way, a Rank 4 would create a game for ranks 1~7, but he could still alter it to 0~15.

Then I propose that Tier 1 play with Tier 1 and Tier 2 (for numerical reasons that only 500 players will be in Tier 1) then each Tier plays with its own. So Tier 1s can't join a Tier 2 game. That way Rank 4,5,6 equivalent can decide whether to play with the high ranks (who could be hosting better games) or not. Instead of calculating average rank which is useless, the host rank (and tier) could then be displayed as well.

Rank limit as option really doesn't work and it is mainly used for duels and 3v3s...

but that means, me and other high ranks [7 and up] will not be allowed to join games made by ranks 6 and lower.

that means you are restricting the high ranks to play with new player... that means that at the long run, you will create a generation of bad players, and once they reach rank 7, they will get total annihilated by good players... eventually you will have all this bunch of noobs that should be in begginers room, playing on main room, and all those old good players [or at least decent 1s] will end up getting bored of afterwind.

Scris de Tundy, 11.01.2013 at 17:23

but that means, me and other high ranks [7 and up] will not be allowed to join games made by ranks 6 and lower.

When I was low rank, I worried about hosting a game and letting a very high rank ruining it and farming everyone.

Scris de Tundy, 11.01.2013 at 17:23

that means you are restricting the high ranks to play with new player...

There are only ~500 Rank7+... If you want to make them play in their own Tier 1 then games are never going to fill 10-15-20 people. Unless you add a Tier 1 privilege to play with all Tiers. In my point of view Tier 2 added to Tier 1 allows sufficient numbers to play with.

Rank 4s are by no means new... that still takes 20-30 hours+ of gametime to reach and that's the bottom of Tier 2...

Updated with 20 Ranks version after this 40 Ranks suggestion horrified Amok.

20ranks system is better than 40. This system may help lower ranks. So i support.

I just read this roughly and didn't really bother to think about it. But overall it seems like a nice idea, so I guess I support lol

It's a good idea to make this game easier/more interesting for beginners and this could help a lot. Would be great to see this implemented!

I'd like to be able to play with other ranks, and AtWar doesn't have enough players for new lobbies since everyone will be likely in their matching lobbies, and global will be abused with chatting.

Otherwise, I like the idea of 20 ranks.

Scris de Sinjid, 12.01.2013 at 10:53

AtWar doesn't have enough players for new lobbies since everyone will be likely in their matching lobbies, and global will be abused with chatting.
Otherwise, I like the idea of 20 ranks.

Keep the lobbies lol... Simple, just list host rank/tier instead of average rank or a ALL RANKS label added to it. That way people would know where to play.

The magic of this system is that:
Since Tier 4 are newbies (low level of knowledge) they can play in any Beginner Room game.
These Tier 3 who needs those regular sp to rank up do the same in Beginner Room.
Also, Tier 2 can play with everyone in Main Room if they want, joining Tier 1 Hosts in a higher difficulty game or play safe.
BUT Tier 1 can only play with their own tier with additional high Tier 2 (Rank 5-6 equivalent) challengers.

Scris de ezzatam, 12.01.2013 at 11:08

Scris de Sinjid, 12.01.2013 at 10:53

AtWar doesn't have enough players for new lobbies since everyone will be likely in their matching lobbies, and global will be abused with chatting.
Otherwise, I like the idea of 20 ranks.

Keep the lobbies lol... Simple, just list host rank/tier instead of average rank or a ALL RANKS label added to it. That way people would know where to play.

The magic of this system is that:
Since Tier 4 are newbies (low level of knowledge) they can play in any Beginner Room game.
These Tier 3 who needs those regular sp to rank up do the same in Beginner Room.
Also, Tier 2 can play with everyone in Main Room if they want, joining Tier 1 Hosts in a higher difficulty game or play safe.
BUT Tier 1 can only play with their own tier with additional high Tier 2 (Rank 5-6 equivalent) challengers.

Oh, then I agree to this idea 100%.

It's a great idea that many have thought of, and I would happily support it if it were the beginning of AW

But's it's not. It would suck because we would just skip a bunch of ranks.

Scris de blargh, 10.01.2013 at 16:27

Different tiers can play between themselves? Or will it be like begginers room?

Also I like this: more ranks => more goals => more addiction

lel ikr

Scris de tophat, 14.01.2013 at 17:06

It's a great idea that many have thought of, and I would happily support it if it were the beginning of AW

But's it's not. It would suck because we would just skip a bunch of ranks.

Agree, and also the dream is the rank 11 badge <3 sexiest

Tl;dr
But I support what I read. But I agree that it would need to be a little more SP to level up all the way. I'm bad at math, so I wont offer any suggestions on that part, but if there is a way to make it a consistent increase, then you should do that.

No.