I thought UN rules werent punishable by mods

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Scris de b0nker2, 24.01.2014 at 10:27

The topic is about why tophats kicked the guy from the game.... which I don't actually think was for farming at all, it was IMO for ruining the enjoyment of others within the game, his justification is that he doesn't do it for SP he does it for 'justice'. So no it's not about farming or role playing at all, it is about one guy ruining the game for others, and you seem to be supporting that?

Ally-fags ruin my game too, why can't mods kick players that ally-fag and try to kill my empire that was formed with blood.

Simple answer, ally fagging does not break any rules, only ethics. Intentionally trolling games breaks both.

In that case, we should start giving warnings to people for leaving a ww2.
Trolling Scenarios is not againts the rules, if people where really role playing they wouldn't need UN in first place.

The real reason people play UN is because they don't have to worry about somebody better killing them.

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Scris de b0nker2, 24.01.2014 at 10:15

If that is true, then why can Germany form the Third Reich if he so chose to do? Why can Russia form the soviet Union? Why can people fight over Syria? These all go against the theory of keeping peace within all nations. Think about WWII scenario. People roleplay, but you never see anybody just forfeit the game just to go along with history, right? Sometimes you see Russia lose, Germany cap USA, France take over all of Africa, exc. There are no rules to roleplaying. Everybody in their head has their own vision of roleplaying in games.

This topic is about roleplaying and SP farming, not the subject of trolling so I don't understand why you wrote that last paragraph.

The topic is about why tophats kicked the guy from the game.... which I don't actually think was for farming at all, it was IMO for ruining the enjoyment of others within the game, his justification is that he doesn't do it for SP he does it for 'justice'. So no it's not about farming or role playing at all, it is about one guy ruining the game for others, and you seem to be supporting that?

I never said I supported anything. VRIL said UN playing is justified by roleplaying. I simply pointed out what a ridiculous statement that is and said by that logic everybody/anybody can SP farm and justify it as roleplaying.

If a mod can kick a player for SP farming for just using the units given to attack, then people like the OP would be a saint since he's stopping 19 other people from SP farming.

I'm only pointing out how stupid VRIL's logic and reasoning is and pointing out that UN, as a whole, is an SP farming machine.

Quote from VRIL, page 2 of this thread. "2k SP in first 2 turns though is nothing but plain SP farming, so a moderation action was a necessity"

He was kicked for SP farming, not ruining the game for others.

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In that case, we should start giving warnings to people for leaving a ww2.
Trolling Scenarios is not againts the rules, if people where really role playing they wouldn't need UN in first place.

The real reason people play UN is because they don't have to worry about somebody better killing them.

Please read through the thread. I have answered that already. If you can PROVE people have joined a game simply to leave it then yes by tophats logic it is punishable, this is a different case, clearly the guy has joined the game only to troll, he even admitted this with his statements about not taking SP and doing it only to 'bring justice'. I repeat anyone condoning that is a fool.

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I never said I supported anything. VRIL said UN playing is justified by roleplaying. I simply pointed out what a ridiculous statement that is and said by that logic everybody/anybody can SP farm and justify it as roleplaying.

If a mod can kick a player for SP farming for just using the units given to attack, then people like the OP would be a saint since he's stopping 19 other people from SP farming.

I'm only pointing out how stupid VRIL's logic and reasoning is and pointing out that UN, as a whole, is an SP farming machine.

Quote from VRIL, page 2 of this thread. "2k SP in first 2 turns though is nothing but plain SP farming, so a moderation action was a necessity"

He was kicked for SP farming, not ruining the game for others.

I think VRIL is right here, he also said it was a design flaw and that the creators should listen to Tunder's advice on it, funny how people have skipped over that.

As I said before you can have no complaints if this is consistent and mods now take this stance on immediate UN rouge's.

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Scris de b0nker2, 24.01.2014 at 10:42

In that case, we should start giving warnings to people for leaving a ww2.
Trolling Scenarios is not againts the rules, if people where really role playing they wouldn't need UN in first place.

The real reason people play UN is because they don't have to worry about somebody better killing them.

Please read through the thread. I have answered that already. If you can PROVE people have joined a game simply to leave it then yes by tophats logic it is punishable, this is a different case, clearly the guy has joined the game only to troll, he even admitted this with his statements about not taking SP and doing it only to 'bring justice'. I repeat anyone condoning that is a fool.

I already told you: tophats is wrong. There is no rule againts trolling a scenario.
If it ever become a rule, people in tik-toks list should have a 30 day vacation.

Scris de Krieger3, 24.01.2014 at 10:57

15) Do not do anything that interferes with the ability of other users to enjoy playing a game in accordance with its rules, or that materially increases the expense or difficulty of staff in maintaining the game for the enjoyment of all its users.

So yes in my opinion there are website rules in place that state that trolling in the manner that the OP did is against the rules. Once again as I said before it is down to interpretation of the mod in question of AtWar rules, not UN games. Please read through the entire thread before giving any more arguments.

Kentuckian, you ruin games the cheap way. Kil UN as a country. Shows what skills you can have if you play non-UNs. When they see how one (or a small group) can kill UN they'll be like ''oh shit I want to do that''.

Scris de Guest, 27.01.2014 at 05:52

Kentuckian, you ruin games the cheap way. Kil UN as a country. Shows what skills you can have if you play non-UNs. When they see how one (or a small group) can kill UN they'll be like ''oh shit I want to do that''.

It's impossible to do that in any UN other than the original.

Not only you have to kill UN's 500 event blackbirds but he can recruit another 500 first turn, most of the time blackbirds have 10 attack and 20 range and can take cities, this blackbirds cost 80 and sometimes are even stealth.

Once you attack UN, all the countries next to you will jump to his aid.

And his cap is always inside a circle of 6 cities, and the 6 cities are walled by destroyers.

Scris de Krieger3, 27.01.2014 at 08:03

Scris de Guest, 27.01.2014 at 05:52

Kentuckian, you ruin games the cheap way. Kil UN as a country. Shows what skills you can have if you play non-UNs. When they see how one (or a small group) can kill UN they'll be like ''oh shit I want to do that''.

It's impossible to do that in any UN other than the original.

Not only you have to kill UN's 500 event blackbirds but he can recruit another 500 first turn, most of the time blackbirds have 10 attack and 20 range and can take cities, this blackbirds cost 80 and sometimes are even stealth.

Once you attack UN, all the countries next to you will jump to his aid.

And his cap is always inside a circle of 6 cities, and the 6 cities are walled by destroyers.

Which UN you're talking about?

Magnificent UN And Adogs UN.

Scris de Krieger3, 27.01.2014 at 08:10

Magnificent UN And Adogs UN.

Didn't kill UN in those ones yet. I should try it. Both of those UN games have nukes. right? makes the job easier.

For "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" to occure you might want to try terrorist style (in adogs' un pick a country then take the gate into the circle and make the world kiss your feet or be capped. A hostage crisis for the luls.

In Empire Un I made it pretty easy for countries to kill Un, but going back on topic.

Should mods be able to kick people in games that they are also playing?
I dont have an issue with the mods and I think they do their job fairly well, but lets not forget that they are human and may be tempted to use their powers for their own gain at times.
Its not a big problem but I've heard once or twice about TopHats kicking people when he might get killed by a cheap method.

Anyway Mods are like the referees of AtWar and it doesnt make sense for me that they can keep their powers while competing.

Scris de LordEdwardthe5th, 28.01.2014 at 05:34

For "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" to occure you might want to try terrorist style (in adogs' un pick a country then take the gate into the circle and make the world kiss your feet or be capped. A hostage crisis for the luls.

I don't know what you said. What circle? What gate?

IN adogs UN he "had" (doesnt anymore a giant circle with everyones cap in it with one way in, if you take that way in you can hold them hostage but adog has sense gotten rid of that.

Killing UN2 looks very interesting. Need some friends to kill it.

Scris de Guest, 29.01.2014 at 01:11

Scris de LordEdwardthe5th, 28.01.2014 at 05:34

For "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!" to occure you might want to try terrorist style (in adogs' un pick a country then take the gate into the circle and make the world kiss your feet or be capped. A hostage crisis for the luls.

I don't know what you said. What circle? What gate?

Adogs un there is a big circle in the middle of the Atlantic containing all the player caps.

The questions has been answered in this thread, this is just off topic, please go ahead and make another topic to discuss :3